Its probably my fault Mike - I should have quoted the Series 80 models for clarity, as indeed Steve did. Smile. Cheers, Mark Mark Matthews Cardiff, Wales, UK E-mail/MSN/Windows Messenger: mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: MMatthews1981 Mobile: 07779 147874 Home Page: http://www.qsl.net/gw0wgk/ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: 18 December 2005 23:42 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 Hi Steve, Ha Ha! Obviously I didn't make sense of the message either <smile>. I was in catch-up mode and obviously didn't listen properly. Cheers, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 > Hi Mike, > > Looks like you didn't read the message properly <Smile>. Mark said > the > only > phones without cameras, were the Series 80 models. The 6680 is not a > Series > 80 model. The Series 80 models are the 9210I, 9300 and 9500 > Communicators. > > You can't go on Nokia model numbers for anything, they just don't make > sense > to anyone, except Nokia. > > All the best > -- > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. > Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > Of > Mike Cassidy > Sent: 17 December 2005 10:40 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 > > Hi Listers, > > At least the 6630 has only one of them <smile>. > > Cheers, > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Matthews" <mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:18 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 > > >> Hi Mel. >> >> I stand corrected if I'm wrong here, but I've got a feeling the only >> Talks-compatible phones minus a camera are the Series 80 models. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mark >> >> Mark Matthews >> Cardiff, Wales, UK >> E-mail/MSN/Windows Messenger: mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: MMatthews1981 >> Mobile: 07779 147874 >> Home Page: http://www.qsl.net/gw0wgk/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Mel Spooner >> Sent: 14 December 2005 12:07 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 >> >> >> Personally I think the 6680 is a good phone. A friend of mine has >> one >> and >> it seems to work well with Talks. However, like George, I don't really >> want >> the cameras and MP3 players, I just want a good quality phone that will >> run >> Talks. Are there any Talks phones which aren't camera phones? >> >> Mel >> >> Mel Spooner >> edIT Help Desk >> Nottinghamshire County Council >> Tel 0115 854 6116 >> Email mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of George Bell >> Sent: 14 December 2005 11:50 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 (WasRE: Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus >> groups) >> >> >> Then I'd equally seriously suggest you try before you buy, Mark. If >> I ever see one of those again, I won't be responsible for what I do >> with it. >> >> George. >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of Mark >> Matthews >>> Sent: 14 December 2005 11:31 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] 6680 (WasRE: Re: Mobile Phone >> usablity >>> focus groups) >>> >>> Funnily enough George I'm seriously considering upgrading >> to >>> one of these babies next April when I'm entitled. Like you >> I >>> just use the phone for staying in contact, however I've >> heard >>> glowing reports regarding stability. >>> As you can no doubt appreciate when running a >> Screen-reader, >>> this is critical. Therefore with this in mind, I'll >> probably >>> go ahead - unless of course further developments occur in >> the >>> meantime. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Mark Matthews >>> Cardiff, Wales, UK >>> E-mail/MSN/Windows Messenger: >> mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Skype: MMatthews1981 >>> Mobile: 07779 147874 >>> Home Page: http://www.qsl.net/gw0wgk/ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of George Bell >>> Sent: 14 December 2005 10:44 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus >> groups >>> >>> >>> I know what you mean here. My wife, wanting to give me an >> >>> early Christmas present, acquired a free upgrade for me to >> a >>> Nokia 6680 or something of that ilk. (I currently have a >> Nokia 6310i) >>> >>> Now I reckon I'm moderately technologically savvy, but >> after >>> an hour with this animal, I nearly threw it at the wall. >> It >>> has now gone back to the Vodaphone shop. I don't want two >> >>> cameras, I don't want an MP3 player, I don't want...... I >> >>> just want to make and receive telephone calls and >> messages. >>> >>> So I guess at 58 years of age, and 20-30 years in the computer field >>> one way or another, I am well past this new >> >>> generation of technology. >>> >>> Does anyone have any recommendations for a good quality string? The >>> mice have eaten the original, and made nests >> of >>> the two tin cans I was using. >>> >>> George. >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> > Behalf Of Tristram >>> Llewellyn >>> > Sent: 14 December 2005 09:22 >>> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus >>> groups >>> > >>> > Hi Steve >>> > >>> > I found myself at the top o the age barrier too and too >>> busy >>> > to stick my head round the door. I think the reasoning >> is >>> >>> > that although it is not true in all cases those 35 and >>> under >>> > are more likely to be enthused about access to mobile >> technology >>> > rather than by any kind of unwilling necessity. >>> > >>> > Regards. >>> > >>> > Tristram Llewellyn >>> > Sight and Sound Technology >>> > Technical Support >>> > www.sightandsound.co.uk >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:24 AM >>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus >>> groups >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Tristram, >>> > >>> > Shame about the age barrier, I am just intrigued to know >>> what >>> > these Toshiba >>> > phones are going to do in the way of accessibility. >>> Intriguing. >>> > >>> > If anyone goes, I would be interested in what they tell >>> us, being a >>> > long-time Talks user. >>> > >>> > All the best >>> > -- >>> > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind >> computer >>> users. >>> > Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: >> +44(0)1438 >>> 759589 >>> > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, >>> > Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> > Behalf Of Tristram >> Llewellyn >>> > Sent: 13 December 2005 12:01 >>> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Subject: [access-uk] Mobile Phone usablity focus groups >>> > >>> > Dear Listers >>> > >>> > I have no personal or professional association with the >> project >>> > detailed below except for a contact has asked me to if I >> would post >>> >>> > this to the list >>> > to give it circulation. I deem the Access UK list to be >> a >>> >>> > most apropriate >>> > forum for this. Details are below including contact >> information at >>> > the bottom. If you are interested in taking part please >>> contact >>> > the organisers. >>> > >>> > Text begins: >>> > >>> > Are you Interested in taking part in a focus group to >> look >>> at the >>> > accessibility problems of mobile phones for people with >> visual or >>> > dexterity impairments? >>> > >>> > Are you between 18 and 35? >>> > >>> > Are you free on January 9, 11 or 12, 2006? >>> > >>> > We are looking for both Braille or speech, and large >> print >>> users! >>> > >>> > The focus group sessions are being run by Toshiba mobile >>> phones, in >>> > conjunction with the Helen Hamlyn Research Centre for >> the >>> Assessment >>> > and Cognitive Ergonomics Lab, Virginia Polytechnic >> Institute >>> and State >>> > University USA. >>> > >>> > The sessions will take place at the Helen Hamlyn >> Research Centre, >>> > Royal College of Art, Kensington Gore, London SW7 2EU - >> tel: >>> > 02075904582, contact: >>> > Julia Cassim. >>> > >>> > The sessions are expected to last between 2 and 2.5 >>> hours, >>> > and refreshments >>> > will be provided. >>> > >>> > Participants will also receive a payment of £35 plus >> their >>> >>> > transportation >>> > costs (petrol costs are calculated at 35p per mile.). >>> > >>> > 1. Participants will first discuss issues regarding >>> problems of >>> > accessibility of mobile phones, (around 30 minutes). >>> > >>> > 2. Participants will then be asked to perform 4 tasks on >> a >>> phone model >>> > provided by Toshiba. Each task will be followed by >>> ratings >>> > (on several >>> > questionnaire items). >>> > >>> > 3. The session will close with a group discussion. >>> > >>> > We would like to videotape the focus groups, but will >>> protect >>> > confidentiality as per human subject ethical guidelines. >>> We >>> > need to capture >>> > hands and voices. >>> > >>> > Details on phone models, tasks, etc. cannot be provided >>> due >>> > to proprietary >>> > policies. >>> > >>> > To get involved, please contact Julia Cassim, a Research >> Fellow >>> > Programme Leader at the Royal College of Art's Helen >> Hamlyn Research >>> >>> > Centre before the >>> > 16th of December 2005, on 02075904582. You can also send >> a >>> fax to >>> > 02075904244. Julia's mobile number is 07890489829. 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