oops! it was late! smile. Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list contact me via email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:38 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > Hi > Jonathan did a review of the H140, not 340, but I have produced a review and > a description of installation on the H340 for this month's Infotech if > anyone receives that. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:28 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > > > > jonathon mosen also did an audio review of an h340 running the rockbox > > software. i've pasted his message announcing the review in below. > > > > Hi all, recently I purchased an Iriver H140 MP3 player, and installed the > > talking Rockbox firmware on it. I review and demonstrate this on > > MosenExplosion.com. You can listen to the review on the site, or if you > > prefer, subscribe to my bloggy bits podcast and receive it in MP3. I hope > > you enjoy the review and find it helpful. > > > > Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list > > contact me via email/msn: > > kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:04 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > > > > > >> I personally think it is very very good, and assuming you have installed > >> a > >> voice file, the menus will speak. > >> > >> In addition to voicing the menu items, Rockbox will spell file or folder > >> names, or there is a relatively complicated procedure to get it to speak > >> these synthetically using words. However, the easiest way to voice file > >> and folder names I found is to use the voice clips feature. > >> I have recorded my voice announcing the name of each artist and album > > title > >> as these are folder names, and so when you arrow to a specific artist or > >> album, the artist or album title will be automatically announced. > >> > >> The best thing to do as a starting point is to visit my Blind iPod > >> portal, > >> at > >> www.hartgen.org/blindipod.html > >> which contains links to go directly to the installation instructions and > > the > >> voice files on the Rockbox site. > >> > >> ----- > >> From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:41 PM > >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> > >> > >> > Hi Brian - > >> > > >> > I know the Rockbox firmware wasn't written with blind users in mind, > >> > but > >> > is it's interface fully accessible? > >> > > >> > Andy > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:32 PM > >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi > >> >> > >> >> In reply to Andy's question, I feel I should be a little more precise. > >> >> > >> >> In order to make the Rockbox software work, you need to "patch" the > >> >> original iRiver firmware. There is a program on the Rockbox site to > >> >> do > >> >> this. > >> >> > >> >> This means that you have a choice as to which firmware starts when you > >> >> power up the iRiver, either Rockbox or the iRiver firmware. > >> >> > >> >> I hope that answers your question. > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:26 PM > >> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Hi > >> >>> > >> >>> No it does not overwrite it. Rockbox is alternative firmware, but > >> >>> the > >> >>> iRiver firmware is not overwritten. What this means is you can > >> >>> either > >> >>> use the Rockbox firmware, which is a completely different interface, > > or > >> >>> you can boot the machine up to use the iRiver conventional firmware. > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:13 PM > >> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> Hi Brian and all - > >> >>>> > >> >>>> If I understand it correctly, does the Rockbox firmware > >> >>>> overwrite the existing IRiver firmware? Does it make all of the > >> >>>> IRiver's features accessible to the blind user? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Andy > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:09 PM > >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> The H340? They are about as common as fish and chips (smile). Lots > > of > >> >>>>> them available on the web, and in high street retailers as well. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:51 PM > >> >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> Hi Brian, > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Yep, I have one of those too, but they are very hard to get now. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> All the best > >> >>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>> Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. > >> >>>>>> Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 > >> >>>>>> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > >> >>>>>> Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>>>>> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > >> >>>>>> Behalf Of > >> >>>>>> Brian Hartgen > >> >>>>>> Sent: 15 January 2006 10:42 > >> >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Hi > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> The iRiver H340 with Rockbox installed. Its cool! > >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:44 AM > >> >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Andrew, > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Book Courier. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> All the best > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>> Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. > >> >>>>>>> Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 > >> >>>>>>> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > >> >>>>>>> Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>>>>>> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > >> >>>>>>> Behalf > >> >>>>>>> Of > >> >>>>>>> Andrew Ireland > >> >>>>>>> Sent: 14 January 2006 20:56 > >> >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] 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