Hi Ray, Thanks for reminding me of this site. I've started to wander around and read . . . but of course it doesn't answer all my questions. Just thinking about a Christmas present for a certain someone! The MP player should be totally useable by a VI person, have good space available and be of good audio quality. Anyone found anything out there yet that they think matches it! -- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray's Home To: Access-Uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: [access-uk] Anything but Ipods Hi, and maybe some here have caught up with this site,but it certainly looks useful to me - and also it looks as if it might not be strictly for blind people, although it seems very navigable. Take a look at: http://anythingbutipod.com/ Though I haven't looked on Brian Hartgen's portel lately I'm sure he for one must have caught up with this. I got to it via Rick Harman's site which has just been mentioned on the blind webbers list. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx