Well, I hate to say, "I told you so!", but Apple are soon to release "Mac OS X Tiger", complete with built in screen reader. I hope that if I add text after the URL here, it will not get screwed up, http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/voiceover.html so give it a look see. Meanwhile, if I go off the air for a while, you'll know my XP SP2 RC1 Upgrade has gone pear shaped. George Bell. This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield. ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** vacation ## d ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq