[access-uk] Re: Are my Reviews Getting through

  • From: rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:44:17 +0000

Hi,
Think this was aimed on list.

Sent from a BrailleNote


---- Original Message ------
From: <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [access-uk] Re: Are my Reviews Getting through
Date sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:43:18 +0000

It is slightly strange that some are getting but others not but anyway here is the Accessible Gutenberg again for those who did not get it.

Rediscovering Accessible Gutenberg
Given the positive experience I had with using Speak On as A Front End for the RNIB Newsagent website I thought I would have another look혻혻 at the Webbie
Accessible Gutenberg application.

This application similarly tries to act as an simplified Front End for the Project Gutenberg public domain eBook website.

The headline of my experience using this app over the weekend is that, with the variety of voices now available with Jaws, and even the free혻 and low cost
voice options with NVDA I think Accessible Gutenberg may be a forgotten gem of a program which is highly suited for ebook reading, especially if used in
conjunction with a Windows Tablet.

To my surprise this application appears to have been dropped from the main Webbie Accessibility Bundle for some reason. I did however find a link for an
installer but when I ran this installer it oddly told me that I already had a newer version of Accessible Gutenberg installed, which I certainly did not.


In the end I got around the problem by downloading from the Webbie Website an old Webbie 3 version of the Webbie Portable package for use wiht USB drives.


For simplicity I simply copied the entire Portable folder created into my existing Accessibility and Webbie Apps folder into my Program Files 86 folder
on my C drive and created a shortcut to Gutenberg.exe and put it on my Desktop.

I ran the program more in hope than expectation, fully expecting the problems which may have prompted its removal from the main Accessibility Apps bundle
to rear its ugly head.

To my surprise on Windows 10 at least I have found using the app extremely smooth and without problem. This is not a long term assessment as I have only
downloaded and sampled 4혻 books but the experience has been very positive so far.

When you open the Gutenberg App you are offered three main interfaces.

The first interface is Catalog view which allows you to browse the entire Catalog of the thousands of ebooks available on Gutenberg.

You can opt to have the books sorted by Title or by Author.

To make the list more manageable the catalog is organised in a set of alphabbetical lists. So you will have Author A, which will open a list of all authors
beginning with A, Author B and so on.

Once in the list of authors and their associated book titles you can cursor up and down to browse혻 the gbooks available for download.

As even in this sub-divided lists there are at least hundereds if not thousands of entries a search function is essential and this is easily provided by
pressing Control F and entering your search term which will jump you straight to the book you are looking for.

Once you have found the book you want you can simply press enter which will download the book and make it available for reading.

This puts you in the Book interface.

The book opens, then pleasingly with all the disclaimers etc from Gutenberg edited out with simply the book contents available for normal reading.

The혻 Reading Keys are simlar to that available in Notepad. The really powerful feature of this app which I had not previously appreciated is that you can
have full freedom to edit the text of the book you are reading and add notes if you would wish.

Impressively the program seems to autosave all the notes you insert automatically and are available when you next open the book.

Unfortunatley Jaws could not read, as in Notepad, by paragraph, but I think this is a Jaws limitation and not the program's fault.

There is an automatic bookmarking feature whereby if you close the book, you will find, on re-opening it that you are in the place where you left off reading.


Whilst there is no formal bookmarking function beyond this in reality you can easily set bookmarks due to the ability to insert notes into the text you
are reading.

So in one book I was reading I set a bookmark by simply typing *1 and pressing return.

I then closed the book and application.

I re-opened the application and book and pressed control F for find again and inserting *혻 in the search jumped me straight to my first bookmark.

In book view you also have full freedom to save the book for use outside of the program as a normal text document. So if paragraph reading is really crucial
you could open this text document in Word and use the support Jaws ffers for reading by paragraph in that application.

The third interface is a Downloaded Books Library which shows all the books you have downloaded from the Gutenberg Site.

To switdch between interfaces you can either use the view menu or control L for catalog view, control D for downloaded books library or control B for Book
View.

I have not yet Tested Accessible Gutenberg with NVDA and Window-Eyes.

With the caveat of saying that I have only just used the app forbrief reading excursions it does seem a forgotten gem of혻 a program. I hope that I do not
now encounter a problem which will leave me with egg on my face!

David Griffith

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From: rajmund
Sent: 12 December 2016 09:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Are my Reviews Getting through

Hello,
I got your review, that you've sent just before that message, but
can't recall the others.

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----- Original Message -----
From: David Griffith <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:18:03 +0000
Subject: [access-uk] Are my Reviews Getting through

I wonder if somebody could tell me if either of the two reviews I
wrote
over the weekend have got through to the list.


I wrote 2.

The First was on using Speak On to access the RNIB News Agent
site.

The second was on Re-discovering the Accessible gutenberg
application.


It seems oddly that some emails are getting through whilst others
are not.


If I get no reply to this I guess there is a problem.


David Griffith




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