Hi I realise that there are many programs available and no doubt hundreds more opinions about them. Can I ask however which of the spam removing, spyware programs is if possible most effective and most accessible to Jaws to clear out all the rubbish. Some of them I remember from the past give quite complicated options e.g. the list they compile leave you scratching your head as to which things to remove. I'm probably asking for the impossible, but is there any program that makes this process easy. Free would be good, but I'm prepared to pay if necessary. Finally is there any benefit in sticking to the Microsoft Defender program? Thanks for all anticipated responses. Apologies for duplicating this to the two lists. Gordon McFarlane