Jackie this brings me onto another subject for a friend.She recently bought a braille alarm clock from R N I B battery but she said it was not worth anything and that cost her £22 .
It was plastic and not stable when she looked at the time. Does anyone know where she can buy a decent braille clock? Thanks Hazel----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:28 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
Hi Iain, Ibrahim et al There shouldn't be a disparity, in my mind, between the price of Braille playing cards and the large print equivalent. And it is also my view that totally blind people are being less catered for now more than ever. You only have to look, as you say Iain, at the amount of easy-to-see watches against the tactile variety. I am very much a Braille person, and worry that pricing of anything to do with it by organisations who claim to represent it will have massive input into its eventual demise. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfIain Lackie Sent: 05 February 2012 14:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards? the really annoying thing about this is that there is such a disparity between the price of large print playing cards and Braille. I don't really believe it myself, but it adds fuel to those who say RNIB isn't actually really as concerned with the "blind", I.e. those who have no sight, as itshould be. the same is true with regard to easy-to-se as opposed to tactilewatches. Iain From: Eleanor Burke <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:40 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards? RNIB prices seem a lot higher than the same products elsewhere.----- Original Message ----- From: Tom <mailto:tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards? I've just had a look at the Sense website and they are offering a set of brailled playing cards for £2 94. Oddly enough the supplier is the RNIB. The Sense website seems to be up to date but the playing card offer might be out of date, but might still be worth looking into. http://www.sense.org.uk/help_and_advice/people_who_are_deafblind/equipment_a nd_accessibility/games/large_print_braille_cards Tom.----- Original Message ----- From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:06 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards? Hi Mike. I have a set of playing cards which must be 15 years old ormore, I've had them since I was a child and used them regularly. The cardscome in a sturdy cardboard box and the braille dots though very faint onsome of them are still quite legible. If RNIB are putting braille cards ina tin to protect the dots and they think this is an acceptable reason tocharge over double what the print cards sell for, they're clearly desperateto add value to these to justify the price. The packaging makes little orno difference to the cards since if you use them on a regular basis the dotswill become flattened and fainter over time anyway, a tin isn't going to make the slightest difference to that. If RNIB were to sell a set of plastic like cards which were robust and sturdy instead of the flimsy cardboard ones they sell, then I could perhaps justify spending that on a set. As you say though, I'm probably going to have to buy a decent set myself and have them brailed with sighted assistance. All the best, Ibrahim. From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:36 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards? Ibrahim, Obviously you have failed to take into regard the high quality box the cards come in..... though it is to protect the less thansufficient quality of the playing cards, so the bumps don't get flattened!!It's a sod, but I agree with Peter, buy a good quality set of cards, the vinyl ones which will give a good sharpness of Braille and mark them yourself. You can also come up with a better system of ID.. Kindest, Mike ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 05 February 2012 10:11 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Chancing the cards? Hi Everyone. I know we've discussed games on here in the past, so Ithought I'd raise this issue as it raises my hackles somewhat. I was on theRNIB online shop this morning looking for brailed playing cards, and wasshocked to discover that these cards cost £7.26, while the standard printed cards cost less than half this at £3.5. For an organisation that claims topromote equal access, this is hardly an encouragement to take up a new hobbies or interest as it penalises those of us who must use braille. A couple of sets of these cards would set me back a Wapping £14.5, anoutrageous amount of money considering that the work required to adapt thesecards IE putting a suit and numeric denominator on each hardly merits such an inflated price. Thoughts anyone? All the best, Ibrahim. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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