Hi John, The LS3 is pretty accessible, I have one. It is not a Daisy player though. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john coley Sent: 05 July 2012 09:05 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: DM5 and DM675. Hi Mandy, are you sure that the unit you have isn't the LS3? The DM5 is the same as it ever was. If indeed it is the LS3 then no, it isn't accessible. Incidentally, time and date is spoken while setting on the DM5, certainly it has been the case since 1.30. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mandy <mailto:lovingtennis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:42 AM Subject: [access-uk] DM5 and DM675. This is going to sound crazy to most I suppose, it is! In March I bought the DM5 and it didn’t take long to get used to most of the functions: I made some good sound recordings mostly family and friends and then because one of my friends was impressed with the recordings, she bought the same product except that it wasn’t – she purchased it from RNIB as I had done but it is the 675 which is presumably newer. It has three microphones instead of two, it doesn’t have Daisy facility and there are a couple of other differences. I thought tat with three microphones it would produce better recordings so I now have one as well as the DM5 but find that it is far less accessible. There is speech but it doesn’t work with all the functions. My question is: is it likely to be updated as the DM5 has been and how will I become aware of these updates? Am I correct in thinking I have 14 days to return this product (it arrived last Saturday) and if there is a fair chance of it being updated with more speech I will keep it. I am certain that the DM5 did not originally speak the time settings as this does not: probably more things besides. Sorry for the long post: I do hope it has made sense. Mandy.