Geoff, try this... Send a blank e-mail to access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx putting the word subscribe into the subject line. Most of us don't afford all that stuff. Maybe it's my Scottish ancestry, but I'm what you'd call careful with the money, and will wait until there's something I really want and can afford. Of course, the real market for some of the stuff is Access to Work. Vince. ----- Original Message ----- From: jeff flint To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [access-uk] How to join this list High I went to Sight Village Yesterday and met a lady even more confused than me. I told her of this list but I am so dumb I didn't know how to tell her to join it. Can somebody remind me? By the way thank you Jackie, Eleanor and Mo for telling me to take my time there I could have mortgaged myself for the rest of my life, how do blind people afford all this? Jeff