I had loads of problems with 6.2 and was still using 6.0 which I think was the last really good version. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 >I have been told that 6.2 is more stable than any flavour of 7. > > Iain > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:42 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 > > > Hi, > > You're both within your rights. I have to say that my perception is that > there has been very little improvement in Jaws now for a very long time. I > think the last really good innovation was the quick navigation keys. > Meanwhile, GW Micro has simplified Window Eyes and made it work well with > more applications. I do personally think that Dectalk is awful and well > out > of date. Eloquence is certainly better. I quite like the idea of an > alternative Say All command to use with Dnaiel which does not mean > switching > synths. I also feel that Dolphin aren't as far behind now. In fact, they > are probably the closest they have been since the DOS days, then there are > alternatives like System Access as well, which is actually pretty good at > a > lot of the basic things. > > Jaws users do know that tere are unstable versions. It is what makes us > wonder if it's really worth the bother of upgrading each time. I think > the > last really good version was a long time ago, though I have forced 7.0 to > work. I gave up on 7.1 and went back. But to expect customers to use an > unstable version knowing there will be a better one is arogant indeed, and > that, in my view, would appear to be FS's problem. They are now too big > and > there are things going on way about Eric's head, which I'm sure he must > not > feel entirely happy about. GW are still small enough to respond, and > small > enough to want to invest in getting the testing process right, which is > crucial. > > Cheers > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:38 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 > > >> mainly I would say that you need to give more detail as to why and also >> to >> be a bit more constructive about saying which features you would want to >> see >> added. >> >> I think that all JAWS users know that sometimes versions of JAWS come out >> that turn out not to be stable enough. As I understand it, JAWS is still >> the leading screenreader in terms of numbers using it so FS should have >> more >> resources than most when it comes to testing. >> >> As I have already said though, I think the new real speak synth is more >> than >> just a gimic, particularly for those new to having to rely on speech. >> >> So in summary I am saying it is important to make positive suggestions as >> well as purely to criticise. >> >> Regards >> >> graham >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:34 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 >> >> >> I'm exercising a consumers right. >> >> The right to comment when I thinka product's crap and I think Jaws is. >> >> What's wrong with that? >> >> Dj Paddy >> Ðà >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:18 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 >> >> >> seems to work well enough here I must say. don't know what you're >> bleeting >> about. no one is forcing you to upgrade if you don't want to. >> >> Cheers >> >> graham >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:20 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 >> >> >> This is shocking. >> >> I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe somebody >> is >> honestly going to pay for this. >> >> This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake! >> >> And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all? >> >> OMG, that's a new feature? >> >> More and more nonsense! >> >> I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for >> years! >> >> I'm disgusted because, many still will! Also rehab agency's and that >> whole >> area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls. >> >> Note: this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh. >> Barry >> Ôà >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 >> >> >> Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to: >> >> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp#OS >> >> From Ray >> I can be contacted off-list at: >> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf >> Of andrew shipp >> >> Hi All, What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0? >> Regards >> >> Andrew Shipp >> >> Located Northampton Northamptonshire UK >> >> Home phone...+44]0,1604 517007 >> >> Mobile 07983598287 >> Skype name...andyshipp55 >> >> Ham callsign M 0 C E G >> Echolink node 220344 >> >> ** 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