[access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones

  • From: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:33:52 +0000

Hello Pele.

A telephone wire is made up of 4 cores, that's to say there are 4 cables within the telephone wire. As far as i understand it, there used to be something called the ring wire in BT telephone sockets. this wire would send a ring signal down 1 of the 4 wires in your telephone cable, causing the phones to ring. the other wires would be used to carry the voice signal. with modern telephone systems, BT have done away with the ring wire system, meaning that only 2 wires are used for telephones and sending the ring signal. the others i believe are used for broadband. this in short means that older sockets will not be compatible with newer telephone systems. Telephones can also conflict if you have more than a few phones attached to your master socket. you'll find that only 1 or 2 will ring, again probably because the lack of the ring wire. i would recommend buying a panasonic set of cordless phones and plugging them in to your master socket so you have 1 base and the others are on charging pods around your house. a reputable telephone engineer should also be able to rewire your sockets to fix the problem so they use the modern telephone system, though your master socket may need updating for this to work properly as modern sockets include filters for broadband etc to separate the broadband signal from the phone signal.

all the best,

Mo.

On 06/11/2014 11:11, Pele West wrote:
Hi Everyone

I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a strange problem we are having
with our new phones that plug in. I hope this is not considered
off-topic for this list.

Peter and I recently bought two new BT Decor 2200 telephones. These
phones plug into sockets on the wall. Our house was cabled with lots of
extension sockets before cordless phones became popular. All the sockets
have broadband filters plugged in as well.

These phones work fine except that they only give the second part of the
ring tone and, if you want to use the monitor, you cannot just press the
button and get the dialling tone, you have to pick up the receiver, get
the tone, put it down again and then press the button.

I have tried one of the phones in all the sockets in the house, except
the master socket and it does not work correctly. But we have an old
phone which we have had for about 25 years which works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the wiring is different on modern phones? Or does
anyone have any suggestions as to how I can put things right (apart from
taking the phones back).

Pele West

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