whilst the onata is good for that price get a used ipad and you ahve full access to stations froma round the world, plus a whole lot more On 29 May 2012, at 12:38, Terry Clasper wrote: > Hi. > For example I bought a couple of years ago a DAB am FM tuner for my hifi for > £600. > Very good value for money, and I've never heard any sighted people > complaining that it wasn’t. > Sometimes we have to just accept that technology bears a price and not > always jump on the old band wagon without first testing whether comments are > fair or not! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Jackie Cairns > Sent: 29 May 2012 12:30 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sonata ++ again. > > Hi Andy > > But it isn't ridiculous if you consider the hifi market as a whole. As I > wrote to Barry in an earlier Email, if you want to buy a tuner for your > system, depending on the make and what its features are, you could be paying > upwards of £400. I've just bought a Denon separates system. I got an amp > and a CD player, as well as a pair of Wharfdale speakers. I looked at the > price of the tuner, and I could have bought one to match it for £299, but it > only had AM and FM, no DAB. To me, it just wasn't worth the money. Then > the tuner with WiFi access so you could have an Internet radio, completely > inaccessible, was over £400. We hardly get a DAB signal here, so just > decided to go for the Sonata Plus instead. > > I agree a lot of assistive technology is expensive, but the problem is that > being blind doesn't come cheap, and while these companies make a good > mark-up on what they sell us, we either get it to enhance our lives that bit > better, or do without and make a stand. I'd rather consider whether I > really want or need a product, and make a decision on whether I can afford > to buy it. If I can't, tough shit. If I can, then I gain. We have very > little sighted help, so the more speech there is on gadgetry round our > house, the more power to our elbow, (smile). > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > ANDY COLLINS > Sent: 29 May 2012 10:18 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sonata ++ again. > > I think I saw it on the 'Wireless for the blind' website for £349. > Ridiculous in my opinion! - > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 11:26 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sonata ++ again. > > >> Hi jakcie, >> >> How much was it? Sounds ideal and something we'd like to have in our >> living room! The Netbook I sat up as a media box 3 years back is getting >> a tad old and sluggish now with it's clunky old XP. >> >> Cheers, >> Barry. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Jackie Cairns >> Sent: 28 May 2012 09:46 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sonata ++ again. >> >> Hi Billy >> >> In my honest, humble opinion, straight from the horse's mouth, I think >> it's >> ace!! >> >> This unit is a big improvement on its predecessor, even though it is great >> too. >> >> 1. You can put multiple network keys in with a spoken menu. So, for >> example, if you take your Sonata Plus to someone else's house, you could >> use >> their WiFi service by putting in their key easily with full speech access. >> >> 2. The motherboard is much faster, so response times are quicker. >> >> 3. There is now built-in TTS, the voice for which I have no idea, except >> he >> is a posh git but ok nevertheless, and a change from Daniel!! >> >> 3. The fact that TTS is built into the unit means that everything you >> stream isn't tagged from the server like it used to be. And because you >> now >> have two USB ports to run hard drives and pens, plus an SD card that >> supports 32GB of storage, your TTS will speak all your music filenames >> etc. >> >> I've tried the SD slot and it definitely works with a 32GB card on which I >> put a lot of music in folders and sub-folders as is my general layout. It >> enabled me to drop down to folders within folders and arrow up and down >> the >> MP3 files. >> >> Luke told me that you can run a USB drive on it through one of the ports, >> whether the drive is powered or relies on the internal workings of the >> unit. >> >> So Billy, I hope this has wet your appetite. I decided to get one because > >> I >> recently bought new hifi separates, and didn't see the point in going down >> the road of purchasing a tuner with WiFi and all that built into it when I >> wouldn't be able to access the thing. So I bought the new Sonata Plus and >> use it for my tuner. We have such a crap DAB signal here that it's not >> worth having a DAB radio, hence the reason why I need to stream. >> >> I'm delighted with it, plus the service Luke and John provide, though Luke >> is undoubtedly my favourite and so terribly helpful. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> BlueNose >> Sent: 25 May 2012 08:24 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Sonata ++ again. >> >> hi guys, I realise this subject has been discussed on this list before, >> but >> Now I will be getting one of these Sonata ++ for myself. >> It would be great if I could get some feed-back from blind users. I always >> like to get it straight from the horses mouth if you like lol. >> >> Are there any tutorials or podcasts been done on this product?. >> >> I would sure like some fee-back from users, I feel this is always best, >> >> Billy >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq