Hi Christine, You will need to pay VAT I'm afraid, because the Nebula is not a product specifically for the blind. It is a general product that just happens = to receive audio description. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286,=20 Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,=20 Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk =20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf = Of Christine Weetman Sent: 20 November 2006 08:46 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Thanks Brian. Your quite right Graham its Plus Vat, but I am thinking maybe we don't = need to pay Vat being audeo described? Christine W.----- Original Message = ----- From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:05 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Thanks Brian. Hi Graham It's 49 pounds including VAT according to the site when I had a quick = look yesterday. I think the internal card is =A376. Brian Hartgen MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx SKYPE: brianhartgen SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186 SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Thanks Brian. > what, =A350 plus VAT for the USB version? that's cheaper than the = netgem by > some margin. > > Cheers > > Graham > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:16 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Thanks Brian. > > > Hi there, yes, that's exactly what I am after, thanks, but Wow! they = are > Sure Really Expensive! Thanks anyway, Very interesting and if I come = into > that kind of money I sure Would buy one of these Amazing boxes! = Christine > W. > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf > Of > Brian Hartgen > Sent: 19 November 2006 09:41 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netgem Freeview Box > > Hi Steve > > When Christine says: > so how much does this amazing thing cost and where does one obtain it > from/? > I am sure she is referring to your previous comment in the thread > concerning > the Nebula. This fantastic product is available from > www.nebula-electronics.com There are a couple of models, a PCI = internal > card > and a USB device. Please check the web site for exact pricing. > > > Brian Hartgen > > MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx > SKYPE: brianhartgen > SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186 > SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:35 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netgem Freeview Box > > > Hi Christine, > > Re-read my message again, and you will find out that I am not sure = about > cost. I wouldn't even take the time to research it. It is really not > worth > it. > > All the best > -- > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. > Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 > International: +44(0)1438 742286, > Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> > > > > _____ > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf > Of > Christine Weetman > Sent: 18 November 2006 23:53 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netgem Freeview Box > > > > Hi Steve, so how much does this amazing thing cost and where does one > obtain > it from/? > > Thanks, Christine W.----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Steve <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Nutt > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:25 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netgem Freeview Box > > Hi Kirsten, > > See my answers below to your questions:- > > > 1. Isit worth it? > > If you have a PC in the same room, no. Get the Nebula. It is much > better, > gives more access to the EPG, allows you to record as well as play, = and is > just darned good. > > 2. How much does it cost these days? > > About 100 quid I believe. > > 3. Is it better than an ordinary box (is the difference in price worth > it)? > > > To be honest, no. In fact, it is an ordinary Freeview box, with audio > description, and a few human generated talking prompts. This is one = of > its > problems. Every time new channels come online, you get Unknown = Channel, > instead of the name of the channel, and I hear they rarely update it > nowadays. > > 4. is it good? > > No. > > 5. How do I go about getting it? > > I believe RNIB may still be selling it, but I may be wrong about that. > > 6. Should I not bother and just buy another freeview box for =A320 > Sadly I can't get free sat or sky as I live in a rented property so = can't > put a dish up, and I can't get cable as the cos don't seem to operate > around > here, and I'm off NTL very much at the mo! > > If you want Audio Description, then an ordinary Freeview box won't, of > course, do the job. You could get the Netgem, but again, if you have = a > PC, > consider the Nebula offering. Visit http://www.nebula-electronics.com = to > find out more. > > Sorry, I really can't get enthusiastic at all about the Netgem, I = couldn't > from the day it hit the market. > > All the best > -- > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. > Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 > International: +44(0)1438 742286, > Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 1871 (20061119) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq