[access-uk] Re: VAT Back on Laptopos/Netbooks and Computers when Purchasing Screen Readers and from Companies Dealing with Software and Hardware for the Blind
- From: Gordon Keen <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:06:20 +0000
Yes, totally agree. The other thing to bear in mind is that it took a huge
amount of effort and time to get H.M. Revenue to agree the regulations
regarding composite rate V.A.T. on access tech and any attempt to evade paying
tax is likely to provoke a negative response from H.M.R.C also they can really,
really make you unhappy, they have more powers than the police, if they
decide to - so best of luck with that!
Regards
G
From glorious Devon, England.
On 1 Nov 2010, at 20:24, ANDY COLLINS wrote:
> I've not been convinced yet that this would be accepted, I think only the
> screen reader would be exempt from vat; after all, the computer isn't being
> modified or adapted, it is still as it was, it's just that a piece of
> software has been installed, nothing else. Seems strait forward common sense
> to me! I think as blind people, we let ourselves down if we keep trying to
> make a special case for everything.
>
> Andy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:39 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT Back on Laptopos/Netbooks and Computers when
> Purchasing Screen Readers and from Companies Dealing with Software and
> Hardware for the Blind
>
>
>> So getting a PC vendor to either install NVDA or another free screen reader,
>> or at least say they have should suffice then?
>>
>> peter
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Mark Faben" <mark.faben@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:11 PM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT Back on Laptopos/Netbooks and Computers when
>> Purchasing Screen Readers and from Companies Dealing with Software and
>> Hardware for the Blind
>>
>>> As far as I recall, The VAT reduction can only be applied at the time
>>> of purchase, and only on goods specifically covered by the HMRC's
>>> rules regards VAT reduction on goods and services for the disabled.
>>>
>>> So, as I understood it, this means the VAT reduction applies
>>> specifically to certain goods designed specifically for the disabled;
>>> E.g., in our case a screen reader, Braille display, but also things
>>> like induction loops and wheelchairs etc. In the case of purchasing a
>>> computer, netbook etc., with adaptive software on it, this then means
>>> that the hardware concerned has been adapted, and so, only at the time
>>> of purchase, does that hardware also come under the regulations for
>>> applying VAT excemption to goods and services for the disabled. A PC,
>>> netbook etc., isn't something specifically for a disabled person, only
>>> when it carries adaptations is it rendered so, and so the reduction is
>>> only applied when the rules regarding the VAT reduction are met,
>>> namely only at time of purchase, and when the goods concerned are
>>> either specifically for a disabled person, or adapted in such a way
>>> to thereby be so.
>>>
>>> Remembering back, this situation is somewhat differnt I think from
>>> what it used to be; It basically cleared up a big mess that existed
>>> where certain bits of equipment/software were eligible for the VAT
>>> excemption and certain bits were not; So in that respect it simplified
>>> the process for both the person purchasing the equipment/software and
>>> also for the suppliers.
>>>
>>> Mark Faben.
>>>
>>> On 01/11/2010, Eleanor Burke <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Andy I am fairly sure that Mr Tookey said that at the time of purchase of
>>>> the software and laptop, VAT is given off the laptop also. He did go on to
>>>> say that perhaps prices were not as competative as in the High Street
>>>> shops.
>>>> Now I may have this wrong and may have misunderstood but I do not think so.
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: ANDY COLLINS
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:41 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT Back on Laptopos/Netbooks and Computers when
>>>> Purchasing Screen Readers and from Companies Dealing with Software and
>>>> Hardware for the Blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor - you only get the vat back on the specialist equipment, such as a
>>>> screen reader, I don't think that being preinstalled or otherwise makes a
>>>> difference -
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Eleanor Burke
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:13 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] VAT Back on Laptopos/Netbooks and Computers when
>>>> Purchasing Screen Readers and from Companies Dealing with Software and
>>>> Hardware for the Blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A week or more back Glenn Tookey responded to a question about VAT back
>>>> when a computer/laptop/netbook was purchased along with screen readers etc.
>>>> Hope you all remember. Steve Nutt was surprised at Glenn's response as I
>>>> recall. Now my question is this. I have the special screen readers but
>>>> now
>>>> I require a netbook so why should I not be able to purchase my netbook and
>>>> install my software and qualify for the VAT reduction? Does this mean that
>>>> only when software is purchased such as screen readers can there be a VAT
>>>> reduction? Isn't that silly as the lifespan of our screen readers can be
>>>> greater than that of our computers or we may require an additional netbook?
>>>> It is then a partial lipservice to the VAT reduction for blind people. Now
>>>> how about if I were to purchase my netbook from one of these companies who
>>>> provide screen readers then they will have me registered as a user of their
>>>> software and would then know that my purchase of netbook was for me as a
>>>> blind person. I could even add to that by installing my software and then
>>>> registering that I had done so. I say this as many people will come back
>>>> to
>>>> me saying that there is no reason why I might not as a blind person
>>>> purchase
>>>> a computer/laptop or netbook for a sighted person. However, if there was
>>>> proof that I had installed my specalist software then surely I should be
>>>> entitled to the VAT reduction?
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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