[access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:56:20 -0000
Wondered after I'd sent the last message if maybe the caps lock key was
implicitly being
refered to regarding lap top layout. No, at the moment Window-Eyes doesn't
support the use
of the caps lock as part of a hot key combo. I think Gw may have this in their
sights for
the next release, or I hope they have. They've always said though this is
going to
necessitate a W-E keyboard driver for this to be possible, and they've said
this could
impact on stability - a thing they are very committed to with W-E.
I think though the more people mention their wish for caps lock hot key
functionality the
more likely GW are to incorporate it. They do listen, even if suggestions do
sometimes take
some while to get implimented.
I'd say a little forethought in planning a coherent and logical layout is
necessary before
diving right in. I've no particular thoughts on a desirable lap top layout as
I don't have
a lap top. I can't abide the things!
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Dave Taylor
Does it give you the ability to use caps lock though? That is really helpful
with laptop layouts. I think it's just a fiddly process changing all the
keys you want to change, but thinking about it, I bet it would only take a
few minutes to create a layout for every possible keystroke, not even just
the ones asigned by default!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
> Don't know if I'm missing something in this conversation but what's wrong
> with defining your
> own lap top layout? Could hardly be easier with Window-Eyes which has
> probably always been
> the easiest of the screen readers to alter keyboard assignments hotkeys..
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: 18 January 2007 8:09PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree about laptop layout. GW need to introduce a layout like the Jaws
> laptop one. Actually, Jaws standard works fine with Media Centre, so
> therefore I presume with XP Pro, but only for 40 minutes at a time, so
> even
> more frustrating!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:06 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
>
>
>> Andy.
>>
>> I've not seen it but I'm guessing that out of the box Media Centre is the
>> same as XP Home and Pro in it's basic functionality. It has alot more
>> support for media use, just like XP Pro has more security features and
>> things like disk space quoataing.
>>
>> The latter so you can dictate how much space a user on the system can
>> use..
>>
>> The reason for needing Jaws Pro is because they have to take the same
>> steps
>> to get Jaws to hook into the system as they do with XP Pro.
>>
>> Completely ridiculous.
>>
>> Your case is a classic one that I'm sure Freedom just shrug and say ah
>> well
>> too.
>>
>> That's a great idea about having both machines running and that way you
>> can
>> avoid the frustrations that drive you to the point of wanting to toss the
>> thing out the window by walking away and back to your older one.
>>
>> I still use Jaws on my laptop because I find Window Eye's laptop layout
>> support very very cumbersome.
>>
>> You can get an external keyboard but that negates portibility IMHO.
>> Ôà
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:10 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
>>
>>
>> Hi Dave.
>>
>> Already got my WE Tutorials out, for a second time. Perhaps I should be
>> a
>> bit more patient and do a little each evening. You said that everything
>> was
>> working fine on your new computer. Is it an XP Home or Media Center
>> Dave..
>> I ask because it looks like I'll be moving onto Media Center with my new
>> computer. Learning Media Center alongside WindowEyes is a bit
>> frightening
>> though.
>>
>> By the way, you wouldn't have the subscription details for the WindowEyes
>> List?
>>
>> Best wishes.
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:47 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Well, as I said, I've gone over, well, am in the process of, to window
>>> eyes.
>>> My impressions are that everything just seems to work with this new
>>> computer
>>> without much less effort than on other machines. I tried it with Jaws
>>> and
>>> got the old issue of the ctrl key locking on and nothing I could do
>>> about
>>> it, which I have been nagging Sight and Sound and FS about for over a
>>> year.
>>> There is a Jaws keyboard layout if you really want it, but I would learn
>>> the
>>> new keystrokes and change the ones you don't like. I think the speech is
>>> sometimes slightly weird having been used to Jaws but it never seems to
>>> crash and it is definitely quicker than Jaws. It'll probably even speed
>>> your
>>> existing machine up.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:16 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like my new computer will be a Windows Media Center. I'll have
>>>> to
>>>> upgrade to JAWS 8 Professional or WindowEyes 6, in order to access it..
>>>>
>>>> What do people think? Should I stick with JAWS or move to WindowEyes?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear from Media Center users as there has been very little
>>>> mail
>>>> recently discussing this OS, which is surprising as XP Home appears to
>>>> be
>>>> on
>>>> the way out, and most of the new computers that I have seen on sites
>>>> over
>>>> the last week have been Window Media Center machines.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes.
>>>> Andy
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