wish. I will be on list anyway sticking my pennies worth in where
appropriate, (smile).
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Barry Toner
Sent: 28 April 2010 14:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
Hi Jackie,
That's magic. I've emailed Glenn now.
We'll have to meetup for a drink when you and Martin get over hear and
settled.
Where abouts are you guys moving to in N Ireland?
Feel free to grab me offlist as I'd be interested in learning more about
your business venture ideas as well!
Cheers,
Barry.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:33 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
My advice Barry, and anyone else come to that, is to Email Glenn directly
at glenn.tookey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
It is worth saying at this point that I am leaving Sight and Sound in
exactly three weeks time to move to Northern Ireland to start a new life
with Martin, and set up my own business venture. I will, of course, still
have close links with S and S, and be around on lists.
So you all know as much as I do about LookTel, I have no privileged info
or input whatsoever regarding testing or development, (smile).
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Barry Toner
Sent: 28 April 2010 12:53
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
Jackie,
How would one go about getting involved with the feedback?
I often find these testing processes are taken place within "who you know
circles", typically in England.
I'd certainly be interested and in-terms of a technical user would be
qualified for testing with my academic and personal background. So is
there an application for testing this product to make sure all the bugs
are ironed out or ... how does the selection process go?
Cheers,
Barry.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:36 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
Having had a little play with Glenn's prototype yesterday, I can only
compare taking pictures and positioning the camera with K-Reader. So, on
that basis, I find K-Reader is quite specific in how you hold the phone.
I found LookTel was less so, and I simply more or less waved the thing at
the tins Glenn had positioned on his desk, and it told me what they were.
Similarly, I didn't have to line the camera up over the 20 quid he was
carefully guarding on his desk (smile). I just waved the LookTel at it,
and it told me it was £20.
I think the best way forward with this product is to keep an open mind and
in US have been part of the development programme, especially for the
touch screen interface. I am keen to gain UK market feedback, but only
when we have moved to a point that everything works reliably, nothing
worse than demoing technology and finding it is not doing what it should.
As for costs, we are regularly told that the capital cost of products for
this industry are out of the reach of the normal person. A subscription
model would remove upfront cost and should help more people gain access.
Remember, this is not a stand alone product, it is a real time service -
like your electricity or telephone service, it has to be up an running 24
X 7, it has to have support in place 24 X 7 - so it incurs costs from the
service providers in real time to support the service.
This is the first of new services and business models for a group of
people who have traditionally had to be one step behind technology
development.
Hopefully over time with a service like this, this group of people can
move alongside their sighted peers.
Sermon over (Smile)
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 27 April 2010 23:14
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
So does that mean that the number of items you can store depends on the
capacity of your phone to keep "real time video"?
It's getting more interesting by the minute ... but who can justify those
prices?
--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a
---- Original Message ----
From: "Glenn Tookey" <Glenn.Tookey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
The answer is yes, once you have trained it to recognise something
then whenever it sees it again (and the phone is in recognition mode)
then it will announce the title that you have given to the object. It
does not matter where you are in the world as long as you have a data
connection back to your base station library it will give you the
information. The response is very quick.
If you are in a place a long way from your base station and want to
train an object you can do it locally on the phone and attach a voice
tag from the mobile phone. This is transferred back to your base
station. Next time it sees the object, it announce it using your own
voice tag rather than the system voice that it uses for tags typed in
on the base station. So, you go into the hotel and tag your hotel door
number (remember it has to be something unique, every hotel door is
the same apart from the
number) and then just have to know where to point it at the hotel
door to find out which is yours. You do not have to take a picture, it
is real time video, so you just move the phone about until it makes
the recognition.
Not foolpoof, but dammed clever really!
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 27 April 2010 17:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
Quite, George.
A question about the product itself. I gathered from Glen's email that
LookTel can be trained to recognise places as well as objects. Is that
right? And if it is, then I can, say, take it with me overseas and
train it to recognise the number on my hotel room door? Have I got
this right or I'm fantasising now?
If that level of recognition can be achieved with LookTel, and LookTel
can be used basically anywhere that has a mobile phone network
coverage, then IMHO this product has a lot of potential.
Cheers,
Amro
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell
Sent: 27 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
Quite simply because what may be right for the American market, is
very often not suitable for the U.K. market, even given the fact that
200 blind users in America have been working with the developers for
the past year or so.
And having now seen the LookTel myself, I can quite understand. This
is why Glen Tookey, quite understandably, is regarding the U.K.
version as an "Alpha", rather than "Beta". Many things do have to be
Anglicised.
Suffice to say that when Glen and his team feel the product is ready
for the UK market, it will be revealed, and will not necessarily be
the final version either, thus allowing any changes potential users
may deem essential.
All I will add is that what I saw was most impressive, to the point
where having kept out of the phone market, I'm sorely tempted.
It won't suit
everyone by any means. If you have a sophisticated phone now, the
extras offered may, or indeed may not, tempt you to upgrade.
George.
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[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 April 2010 09:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LookTel smartphone software
Why are they only testing Alpha software in this country because
thee-mail I forwarded referred to Beta software.
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