[access-uk] Re: definition list in JAWS HTML

  • From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:00:18 -0000

Hi - discussing in the context of a site with which I am more familiar
ratehr than the bbc example, our own, www.schools.becta.org.uk the third
list on this page is a dl with 6 items however jfw does not
differentiate between elements within a single list item and the 6 list
items, e.g. by arrowing alone it is not clear that Self-review, ICT
Mark, Strategy, Leadership, Planning, And Budgeting all fall under the
leadership and management category and the the next item, curriculum is
a new section within the list.  If this were a series of nested
unordered lists jfw would make this apparent by announcing the hierarchy
status of the various lists and list elements as each were highlighted.
In order to reflect the structural nature of the list content it would
be preferable if jfw in some way were able to differentiate between dt
and dd elements.

In some versions jfw has also manifested poor support by verbalising
some components of dl code e.g. in several version announced an '=3D' =
sign
between DTs.

Afraid I can't comment on support in other screenreaders as I don't use
any one regularly enough to have taken note of the support for this
element.

Adrian Higginbotham
Project manager, Standards

British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994.

Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ=20


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Sent: 30 November 2006 11:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: definition list in JAWS HTML

On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 11:51 +0000, Adrian Higginbotham wrote:
> Jaws has long failed to correctly support definition lists. Something=20
> I for one flagged with FS as far back as version 5 if not earlier but=20
> which they have done nothing about - obviously not headline grabbing=20
> enough.  It is this failure of support which results in the quirky jfw

> output when within dl lists rather than poor implementation of the tag

> itself all be it that the tag is being used not for the purpose for=20
> which it were intended.

Out of interest, how do you think JAWS /should/ handle DL generally and
especially in this instance? (Sadly Freedom Scientific has no public
bug-tracker.) Do other screen readers do it better?

--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

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