Hi - discussing in the context of a site with which I am more familiar ratehr than the bbc example, our own, www.schools.becta.org.uk the third list on this page is a dl with 6 items however jfw does not differentiate between elements within a single list item and the 6 list items, e.g. by arrowing alone it is not clear that Self-review, ICT Mark, Strategy, Leadership, Planning, And Budgeting all fall under the leadership and management category and the the next item, curriculum is a new section within the list. If this were a series of nested unordered lists jfw would make this apparent by announcing the hierarchy status of the various lists and list elements as each were highlighted. In order to reflect the structural nature of the list content it would be preferable if jfw in some way were able to differentiate between dt and dd elements. In some versions jfw has also manifested poor support by verbalising some components of dl code e.g. in several version announced an '=3D' = sign between DTs. Afraid I can't comment on support in other screenreaders as I don't use any one regularly enough to have taken note of the support for this element. Adrian Higginbotham Project manager, Standards British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ=20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis Sent: 30 November 2006 11:59 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: definition list in JAWS HTML On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 11:51 +0000, Adrian Higginbotham wrote: > Jaws has long failed to correctly support definition lists. Something=20 > I for one flagged with FS as far back as version 5 if not earlier but=20 > which they have done nothing about - obviously not headline grabbing=20 > enough. It is this failure of support which results in the quirky jfw > output when within dl lists rather than poor implementation of the tag > itself all be it that the tag is being used not for the purpose for=20 > which it were intended. Out of interest, how do you think JAWS /should/ handle DL generally and especially in this instance? (Sadly Freedom Scientific has no public bug-tracker.) Do other screen readers do it better? -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq