Hi Fran, All for that. I suppose we need to get subscscribers who are visually impaired together. I likewise have no experience in doing this on the net. I found reference to using TVonics dtr-z500 on Irish freeview by setting the box to Norway as a country. Kind regards Aedan. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of frances holman Sent: 11 July 2012 20:58 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] for aden Hi Aden I know it will not work on sky, I was thinking we should start a online petition badgering sky to make sky more accessible for blind users. I would be willing to start if I had some help to set it up in the first place, I know even a lot of my sighted friends would willingly sign it. What do you think? Cheers Fran. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq