steve are you did you say demonstrating the new jellybean at sight village on a nexus? i do not think much of ICS but will hold off judgement until i have had a proper look at how to navigate the web etc using jellybean does your phone have it now? if so i shall stop by on tuesday and inform the list of how I think jellybean is progressing, android for me in ICS just seems clunky but as you stated here on list jellybean supposedly makes vast improvements but of course for me, i need to see it before i attempt to use it regards, will ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq