O.K. these are the instructions as dictated by Tvonics on how to remove the auto shut down feature on the logic AD freeview box: Press the menu button on the remote control. Go into settings Go into "update channels" Use the arrows keys to go to "off" I'm afraid they omitted to tell me how to return from there to normal service, but I suspect it is done by pressing the menu key again. However, they did confirm that setting update channels selection to off, really does turn off the auto shut down. If it doesn't you can phone them on: 0870.8030551 Steve Green ----- Original Message ----- From: James O'Dell To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:41 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Hi Steve Could you pass on the information about how to turn off the autoshutdown? Thanks James ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Green To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Hi Jackie I understand that the RNIB set top box differs very slightly from the one sold by Curry's, in that the RNIB box beeps when you change channel and beeps twice when it detects an audio described programme. But that's not much for your extra 20 quid. I've also been on to TVonics who have told me how to switch off the auto shutdown ffeature that prevents you from recording with a video or DVD recorder more than a few hours in advance. I haven't tried it yet but I'm assuming it works. Of course it requires sighted assistance, which I haven't got at the moment. Steve Green ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Cairns To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Thanks Adrian for that. Just bear in mind then guys that it's cheaper from Currys (smile). Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Higginbotham To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes HI Jackie et al - apologies for out of sequence reply - got a bit behind on Email. I'm pretty sure the TVonics STB is the same beast as the Logic box - I found an article on RicAbilities site reviewing the unit saying it is sold under both names by different suppliers - I tried mail TVonics at that time to see if they had a price and date of availability but got no joy but looks like the RNIB offering is the answer. Adrian Higginbotham Project manager: Learning services Becta Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 13 February 2008 19:59 To: Access UK Mailing List Subject: [access-uk] RNIB's Freeview Set Top Boxes Hi Gang A few weeks ago, some members of this list were discussing a Logik Freeview box supporting Audio Description that they could purchase from Currys for £59.99. Then, more recently, I thought I read here that RNIB were selling this same box for a bit more than that, around £70 I thought I saw. Well, in the latest issue of RNIB's Access IT mag, they are advertising two Freeview boxes, both supporting AD. One is the TV-Onics MFR300 (product number TV02), costing £70.49. The other is the TV-Onics MDR300 (product number TV01), costing £82.24). The difference is that the more expensive of the two gives an audible bleep when you change channels, and a double audible bleep when AD is available. Now for my question. Is the Logik Freeview box also being sold by RNIB, or did I get it wrong, and the above devices from TV-Onics are additional Freeview products to their range? I would happily ring Customer Services, but they don't always know the latest information, as they are often quick to point out. Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace