Hi Alexander, you might persevere with Spybot. Alternatively look at XoftSpy. It works perfectly with Jaws5: http://www.paretologic.com/products.asp Deon At 14:57 5/28/2004, you wrote: >Hi again, > >I have just taken douglas's advice but the problem still persists even when >using narator to get around the known JFW issue. > >Any further suggestions please? > > >Alexander Shannon