[AR] Re: DC-X anniversary

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket list <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:55:44 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, James Fackert wrote:

Is SpaceX falcon 9 block 5 not the very successful child of  DC-X ?

Only in a small way. Being able to reuse the first stage (say) a dozen times with modest refurbishment -- feasibility of which is not yet fully established for Falcon 9 block 5 -- is still a far cry from reusing the whole vehicle with a small-ground-crew turnaround time measured in hours.

The long-term goal of the effort that produced DC-X was vehicles that could operate at a few times fuel cost. Falcon 9 currently costs $50-60M and Elon has stated the fuel cost as being $0.2M, so he's got a long way to go yet. The modest reusability of Falcon 9's first stage is a useful saving and a step in the right direction, but *not* yet a fundamental change in space launch.

It just took a few years for faster-than-real-time modeling and predictive
control proc and sensors to make the concept practical .

Uh, DC-X showed 25 years ago that the concept was practical then, if you design the vehicle for it from the start. For example, you want fully throttlable engines -- unlike Falcon 9's -- so the approach doesn't have to be too precisely timed. For another, you want a vehicle that can do incremental flight testing -- unlike Falcon 9 -- so that you can start with relatively easy flights and gradually work up to doing the full operational profile, making it possible to find problems without losing a vehicle every time. Even F9 block 5 is an expendable vehicle with a bit of reusability kludged in, not a vehicle designed from the start to be fully reusable; it makes a difference. (Remember that vertical landing of the first stage was SpaceX's second try at making it partly reusable, the first try -- splash it down intact and salvage parts from it -- having been a total failure.)

Pioneers, they were. 
Is anyone from dcx project working at SpaceX?

Not that I'm aware of, although I haven't kept track. I believe some of the DC-X folks *are* at Blue Origin.

Henry

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