[AR] Re: How to make carbon-carbon composites?

  • From: "Troy Prideaux" <GEORDI@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:32:42 +1100

I've never made the stuff so I can't be of detailed assistance apologies;
however from my understanding there are various methods to get there. 1 method
to manufacture reinforced carbon-carbon fabrication begins with a rayon cloth
graphitized and impregnated with a phenolic resin. That impregnated cloth is
laid up as a laminate and cured in an autoclave. After being cured, the
laminate is then pyrolized to convert the resin to carbon. This is then
impregnated with furfural alcohol in a vacuum chamber, then cured and pyrolized
again to convert the furfural alcohol to carbon. This process is repeated three
times until the desired carbon-carbon properties are achieved.

Troy

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Sent: Sunday, 6 December 2015 10:35 PM
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Subject: [AR] How to make carbon-carbon composites?

After some recent discussions about nozzle materials and thinking back to a
class I had in university, I was wondering how to make carbon-carbon
composites, and whether this is feasible for amateurs/hobbyists.

From what I understand (having read the Wikipedia article ;-), first a carbon
fiber reinforced part is made in the classic way.
Then the part is pyrolyzed, i. e. heated in the absence of oxygen such that the
matrix decomposes and the volatile parts evaporate to leave a pure carbon
matrix.
Since the matrix is now very porous, a gas like acetylene has to be passed
through the part so the pores will be filled with carbon.

So I have a couple of questions:
1. Which resin can be used to manufacture the original CFRP part? Epoxy?
Phenolic? Anything?
2. Is there really the need for additional "carbonization" after pyrolysis if I
want to use it as a combustion chamber or a nozzle?
3. Are there any other big obstacles I haven't thought of?

Pyrolysis shouldn't be too hard using e. g. a steel container and a CO2
atmosphere at maybe 1000 °C?

Oliver


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