[AR] Re: How to make/where to buy tanks for propellant for pressurization with inert gas? How to meter flow?

  • From: Robert Watzlavick <rocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 22:21:15 -0500

Some overall thoughts:

You should select propellant tanks that are way stronger than you need for static testing. Once you get things running well on a test stand, then you can start thinking about flight weight tanks. For typical pressures used in amateur rocketry, aluminum DOT rated cylinders are good choices as they are typically rated for 2000-3000 psi (unmodified) and the heel is thick enough to drill and tap for an NPT fitting.

You also may want to consider making an uncooled engine first to shake out the problems with your test stand. I certainly learned a lot and on my first few hot tests that made it easier when I got around to testing my first regen engine.

To take measurements on the test stand, you can go cheap and reliable (video camera looking at pressure gauges) or you can go with a full data acquisition system which is a lot more complex and expensive but much more flexible.

For an engine in the size range you're talking about, you're going to want some sort of igniter as direct spark ignition probably won't work.

For controlling propellant mass flow rate, typically you characterize the injector flow rate vs. pressure using water to get a discharge coefficient curve. Then assuming a nominal chamber pressure, you can set your tank pressure regulator appropriately.

I agree with the others, the two books you want are Rocket Propulsion Elements by Sutton, and either NASA SP-125 or Modern Engineering for Design of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engines from the AIAA.

There is lots of helpful information in the aRocket archives, both on freelists.org and on the older list archive located at www.blastzone.org/arocket. Based on your questions, I would start with the two books mentioned, then start going through the aRocket archives to get practical tips.

-Bob


On 05/19/2016 04:54 PM, Wensberg, Dana A. (2018) wrote:

New to the forum. Forgive me if this is not how things work.


My general questions are:


How can one make or obtain a tank for propellant when you want to use inert gas 
to pressurize it. Should I purchase a bladder and try to jam it into an old 
chemistry cylinder? Or should I have the thing professionally made (for like 
$2500 a piece). The rocket size is about 5 inches in diameter with a design 
thrust of around 2000 lb. Kerosene and LOX


How should I meter the flow? Should I use an orifice or venturi? How can I 
insert the pressure gauges and thermocouples everywhere? How do the pressure 
gauges work?


Any help would be greatly appreciated?.


Regards,


Dana





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