[AR] LOX/kero layout (was Re: Above 65000 ft for free)

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 23:07:27 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, Peter Fairbrother wrote:

So: 1st rocket. LOX/kero, 400N turbopumped...
Which tank goes on top, LOX or kero? Does the duct from the top tank go through the bottom tank, or outside it? Design decisions which have been made and remade before now.

Answer to both is "it depends". :-)

Putting the LOX forward is good for aerodynamic stability -- there's more of it and it's denser, so this moves the CM forward. But moving mass forward means greater structural loads and hence structure mass, although that may not matter too much at your scale. Greater LOX hydrostatic head reduces tank pressurization needed to suppress pump cavitation, although again probably not much at small scale. Putting the cold tank on the bottom might require insulating its base to reduce ice formation in the engine compartment (Delta, with LOX on bottom, had to do this; Atlas, with LOX on top, had no insulation anywhere). Here the choice seems to turn on details and I don't see a clear preference.

Running the duct through the bottom tank complicates design (shape of bottom tank is more complex for pressure loads etc.), insulation against temperature differences, and fabrication (especially if you want to make sure it's leakproof without fussy process control). It does put the duct in a more protected location and avoids aerodynamic asymmetry, and it may shorten the vehicle a bit (having the duct swing off to the side and then back to the center can require more spacing between tanks and above engine). Here the usual winner seems to be duct outside.

For a first vehicle, there will be enough problems making it work even if it's kept as simple as possible. That strongly favors duct outside, and probably at least weakly favors LOX on top.

Is it ok/sensible to run detcord through/along the
duct for range safety purposes?

If you're going to have a bomb on board :-(, you want it easily accessible, if only for disarming it when something goes wrong -- i.e., putting it inside plumbing is a really bad idea. Alongside, not so bad, although if it's LOX in the duct (or in the tank right beside it), how well does detcord handle cryo temperatures? (The answer might be "nobody knows", in which case it's one more complication that's best avoided.)

There are major practical advantages in *not* having explosives on board. Especially in Britain, which I gather has a long history of being somewhat paranoid on the subject. Non-explosive range safety is highly desirable.

Not least, range-safety systems need established reliability. This is one place where "we think it'll probably work" almost certainly will not be acceptable; if the vehicle needs range-safety systems at all, very high confidence in their reliability is mandatory. Which means that amateur designs for such systems almost certainly will need full-scale live tests. This will be noisy and expensive if explosive destruction of hardware is involved.

Henry

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