[AR] Re: More Open Source Stuff...
- From: rclague@xxxxxxxxx
- To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 23:09:43 +0000
No, they told me the same thing 15 years ago when I called on behalf of ERPS.
They were glad I called, they like people coming forward and asking questions,
and the answer to my question was a definite No, you are not subject to ITAR.
When I asked for that in writing, the answer was also no. They did not then
have a mechanism for formally telling people that what they were doing was not
subject to export controls. They must have gotten tired of saying that.
(When we asked AST the same question, we got the same pair of answers, "No,
you're not subject to ITAR, and no, we can't write that down. There is no
applicable statute, so we have nothing to write about." When we pressed them,
they told us, and I quote, "Look. This is America. You don't need someone's
permission to invent things here." We were unhappy with that reply in the
moment, because we wanted something in writing. We soon realized that we had
been shown first hand that at least one government office actually understands
the meaning of freedom, and staunchly believes in it.)
Thanks again,
-R
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Thanks very much. I was a bit nervous going into it but I felt it was worth the
effort to at least get a little bit more clarity on an important topic.
Admittedly the scope of my request was small but at least it’s a first step and
gives people like Lloyd who are releasing similar artifacts some piece of mind.
>> Did you go through OSR?
I submitted the Advisory Opinion request in via the Directorate of Defense
Trade Controls Response team
(https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/about/contact_information.html). They then
assigned a “case worker” to review my request. This person was actually quite
helpful and he mentioned the state department was interested in this subject,
which is why it took a bit longer then usual to process. He did not specify
specifically what they were interested in but it kind of gave me the impression
they were looking at ways to better exempt hobbyist/educational work while
still maintaining control on things that are more dangerous. This could be me
reading too much between the lines though.
-Graham
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Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:40 AM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Graham,
Thanks for doing that. The more State sees that amateur rocketeers are sensible
people with the patience to work with the State. Department, the easier life
will be for all of us.
Did you go through OSR?
Thanks,
-R
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Hi aRocket -
A few months back I inquired about the possibility of posting an igniter online
as open source. After some consideration I decided to follow up with the State
Department to get an advisory opinion as to whether this would/wouldn’t violate
US ITAR regulations.
The process took some time but this past week I received an ‘ok’ to post
online. The scope of the advisory opinion is fairly narrow in that it applies
only to non-flyable less than 200 newton engines (since this is what I asked
for) but the engines I build currently fit into this category so I’m happy for
now.
I’ve since gone ahead and posted STL files on Github
(https://github.com/gNSortino/OSREngines/tree/master/Engines/2014-GOXEthanolRegenEngine)
under a creative commons license. So feel free to use, study, modify, etc...
I hadn’t thought of using GitHub to post any non-code resources but after
seeing how nicely the PSAS site was laid out I decided it was better at version
controlling things like CAD and design files then a Wiki or WordPress site.
I’ve also just sent my v2 regen to the printers and am planning on testing that
this spring. Once I’ve had a chance to test I’ll post that info as well.
Kind Regards,
Graham
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