[AR] Re: Skylon Progress (was Re: Silicon Carbide)

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 16:55:15 -0500 (EST)

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Rand Simberg wrote:

What would have been your idea for "different" ?

Something based on fundamental research into the nature of supersonics, the cause of wave drag and entropy in the wake, and figuring out what to do about it...

Translation: Rand has been involved with some folks who've been pursuing such ideas, so that's the only acceptable approach. :-)

In fairness, their ideas *are* very interesting, and if their concept for essentially shock-free supersonic flight works, it could make a big difference to aviation. It does seem like something that would be worth at least a modest amount of high-risk-high-payoff R&D funding.

(More precisely, I should say "shock-free supersonic *lifting* flight". If you read old aerodynamics books, you find that people noticed the possibility of shock-free supersonic flight a long time ago. One of the shock-free shapes, the "Busemann biplane", appeared in the same paper that first proposed swept-back wings. But nobody could find a shape that would produce *lift* without shock waves -- the Busemann biplane is shock-free only at zero angle of attack -- so the idea gradually got forgotten.)

However, it's not necessarily the *only* way to get good supersonic L/D. Concorde didn't do too badly, even the traditional approaches can do significantly better now, and there are other poorly-explored options, like compression lift.

Finally, trying to rein in this digression a bit, it doesn't seem very relevant to rocketry, or even Skylon. :-) Almost certainly, a more efficient supersonic aircraft would have to be tightly optimized for cruise at one specific speed, so this wouldn't be very useful for "accelerator" missions like space launch. (Except insofar as easy availability of commercial supersonic aircraft might make air launch more attractive as a starting point for a rocket.)

Henry

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