[AR] Re: Spinlaunch

  • From: John Schilling <john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 10:49:43 -0800

I wondered if there might be a connection; I've got a slick briefing package on Slingatron from, let's see, 2007.  But it pretty much dropped off the radar.  And it doesn't look like the originator of the concept, or any of the people who were working on it as of 2013, are at SlingLaunch (could be hiding their affiliation, of course).

Slingatron is a neat concept, as you say very steampunk, but it looks like a horrid dynamic loads environment for the sort of lightweight structure that would be needed to go the remaining 85% of the way to orbit on rocket thrust.

        John Schilling
        john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        (661) 718-0955


On 2/23/2018 9:42 AM, William Claybaugh wrote:

I got briefed of this year’s ago, it was called “Slingatron” at that point.

It seemed—to me—very amusing; a sort of mid-nineteenth century engineering solution to throwing things pretty hard. Maybe a fun high school science fair project.

I agree that the idea that VC’s actually understand their investments is suspect in some cases....

Bill

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:05 AM John Schilling <john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Yes, and if you can get around the gravity, the propulsion
    requirements pretty much go away.

    Even if you could get around the heating, that's not enough.  You
    need to get around the heating, and the drag, and the lateral G
    loading during spin launch, all of that, without compromising the
    design to the extent that your structural coefficient grows by
    more than maybe 0.01 - 0.02; otherwise you're farther from orbit
    when you leave the catapult than you would be sitting on the pad
    with a rocket that doesn't have to deal with all that.

    If you tell me your system is planning to reach orbit, I want to
    see plain cylindrical or conical tanks / motor cases.  Simple
    fairings or even wings bolted onto the cylinders, fine, but not
    pointy-nose aerodynamic sleekness or a TPS rated for hypersonic
    flight at sea level.

            John Schilling
    john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            (661) 718-0955


    On 2/22/2018 10:30 PM, Bernard Pritchard wrote:
    Actually, if he can get around the heating, the G-forces can be
    held to a very acceptable minimum. It all comes down to the
    radius of his launcher. Do the math for yourselves.
    Bernie Pritchard.

    On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Lars Osborne
    <lars.osborne@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lars.osborne@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        The next time anyone claims that V.C.'s are careful investors
        who look at technology fundamentals, I will show them this.

        Thanks,
        Lars Osborne

        On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:45 PM, Ben Brockert
        <wikkit@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wikkit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

            I've been hearing rumors of them for months. They finally
            came out of stealth, and are as silly as the name implies.

            https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/22/spinlaunch/amp/
            
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