[AR] Re: Worth it to continue?

  • From: Keith and Mary Stormo <kstormo@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 17:05:45 -0700

Hi Joe,

In addition to the safety items that others have mentioned, a few tips for o-ring grooves in thin wall aluminum tube from a hobby machinist whose machined lots of them on a number of different lathes.

1. I make a cutting tool out of a broken lathe tool by grinding the width I want with a Dremel motor cutoff tool and give it about a 10 degree positive rake angle.

2. Keep the length of the tool very short so it is very solid.

3. Use a steady rest if you cannot cut within about 1 inch of the jaws of the lathe. Hopefully the lathe bore allows the tube to be set very near the jaws and not tightened very tight so it does not distort the tube shape.

4. take very shallow passes (like 0.005") and then the final pass should just be a spring pass where you cut at the same depth.

5. I usually cut very close to 50% of the wall thickness at a maximum.

6. Practice on some scrap tubing.

7. Use some fine wet/dry 300-400 grit or Scotch-Brite to remove sharp edges without really rounding the corners.

Hope this helps,

Keith



At 08:17 AM 10/15/2021, Jack Hanna wrote:

Hello!
I've been having problems, mainly with machining and in general when trying to make a hybrid nitrous-paraffin ground only rocket engine it's been quite rough, and the lack of a mentor and machining knowledge has led to about three weeks worth of work just being a couple of tubes. I have been trying to cut o-ring grooves for probably about 6 hours, and have just completely failed. I technically have a couple of grooves in the outer tube, but I worry that if I purchase lower profile o-rings that it still won't be sufficient sealant and it will just be a glorified bomb when I go to ground test it. That's the other issue, the last chance I really have to test it is on october 30th, and that deadline has me kind of cramming, and the absolute last thing I want to do is to rush it, and make a bomb instead of a rocket engine. I've also been bad and skimped a little on the math and other parts for time, and my plan really just boils down to shoving nitrous through a tube with paraffin, standing very far away, and hoping for the best.Â
Is it worth it to try and continue with this subpar design, or should I scrap it and pick it up later when I have more time / experience?

I really want to do this, but I also want to know if it's going to actually be severely dangerous or just have no chance at success. How much can you bodge a rocket engine and still have it work ok?Â
Thanks.Â
- Jack


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