[AR] Re: bittersweet anniversary

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:00:16 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Rand Simberg wrote:

The Wikipedia page for Apollo 8 says that Low et al eventually persuaded Webb to approve the mission, but that doesn't jibe with my previous research. I thought that he was resistant, and resigned in October (in part because he disapproved?), and then Paine approved it in November as acting administrator?

According to "Chariots for Apollo" (NASA SP-4205, the NASA History book on the Apollo spacecraft, not the later Pellegrino&Stoff book by the same name) and several other sources, when Webb was first approached in August, he was shocked at first, and Phillips and Paine couldn't get him to officially buy it. I don't recall ever seeing mention of him changing his mind. He *did* authorize confidential planning and quiet preparations, but not a public announcement -- officially, Apollo 8 was still an Earth-orbit flight. At the very least, no official change would be made until after Apollo 7 (in mid-October), which did make sense -- full success there was certainly a prerequisite.

Webb announced his resignation in mid-September, after a meeting with LBJ; it was effective early October, leaving Paine as acting administrator. Nobody can say for sure whether Webb would have approved the lunar Apollo 8 in the end. It was bold, for sure... and the Apollo fire had hit Webb hard; people who dealt with him regularly said he was sounding tired and had become more risk-averse. Some have suggested that he resigned partly because he didn't want to face the Apollo 8 decision and the possible aftermath of a failure.

(As far as I know, there is no documentation of the reason for Webb's sudden departure; there are other theories. But even if all went well, he wouldn't be in office for Apollo's triumph. Since LBJ wasn't running for re-election, Webb had only a few more months as administrator -- like any other political appointee, he would formally resign as the new administration took office, and almost certainly a new president would not ask him back. So it's certainly *plausible* that he just decided that he didn't want to deal with this, and it was simpler to retire before the request for final approval hit his desk. It would explain why he chose to leave *before* the first manned Apollo flew -- you'd think that sticking around only a few more weeks would have let him leave on a high note.)

Paine approved and announced the lunar Apollo 8 in mid-November, after several meetings and considerable back-and-forth.

Henry

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