[AR] Re: flame deflectors (was Re: starship abort?)

  • From: Ivan Vuletich <ijvuletich@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:11:08 +1000

I believe (could be wrong) that the Russian Soyuz launch pads use a Nitrogen 
deluge system

On 22 Apr 2023, 04:21, at 04:21, roxanna Mason <rocketmaster.ken@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

Yes Henry, correct, I saw a photo of a 7.5K:bF 'subscale' F-1 engine
with
it's exhaust blasting at a test deflector to empirically design the
Saturn
5 deflector.
They coated it with layers of volcanic rock. I like the Russians
deflector
too, it's also passive in nature needing no cooling water except for
maybe
some smaller amounts around the top area of the pad. I like passive
things,
fewer things to fail.

Ken

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:52 AM Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023, roxanna Mason wrote:
 It's interesting to note that the aforementioned Saturn 5
deflector was
passive in nature, not a steel plate with 1000's of holes flowing
high
pressure water.
So simple it's painful.

Not an entirely trivial design, though -- for example, the angle
between
its sides changed at least once during development, to make sure that
a
detached shock didn't form above it.  (It's an aerodynamic surface in
supersonic flow...)

Henry

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