[blind-democracy] Re: Dazed and Confused

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
  • To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 13:30:50 -0400

Okay, you have a point. I am being entirely too picky for getting upset just because someone accuses a song I like of being misogynistic. It really doesn't matter in the long run. But still, I think it was misinterpreted. Supposedly the most misogynistic part was the line that says, "Lots of people talking, but few people know that the soul of a woman was created below." It does not say the souls of women were created below. It says the soul of a woman. Now, admittedly, taken out of context it might sound like it was referring generically to women as in womankind. However, right before that it says, "Wanted a woman; never bargained for you!" and there is a slight emphasis on the word you. Furthermore, if you listen to the rest of the song - and I know that you said that you didn't make it - the rest of the criticisms of a woman are made toward that you, whomever the pronoun refers to. Again, I heard that song for years on end and never really paid attention to the words even though I was vaguely aware of something about a soul being made below, but it never entered my mind that it might be misogynistic.


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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so! Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we created God, and that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept
On 6/5/2021 12:52 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:

Yikes!!!
I had to go to the link.  Just as I hit enter, the "music" knocked me
over and the sky opened up.  It's raining cows and elephants.  But to
answer your question, misogynistic or not, I'm not the one to judge,
since I only lasted about 21 seconds.  Frankly, with apologies. this
reminds me that I am somewhat out of touch, musically speaking.  I
still think of Neil Diamond as being current.  I quickly turn off the
radio when my son drops around, entering the house and instantly
getting that Deer in the Headlights look when he hears what I'm
listening to
But actually I do have an answer to your question.  The answer is, Who
Cares?  I mean, if you like it, and you said you thought it is their
greatest song, then simply enjoyit.  I've been laughed at or hooted at
for most of the music I enjoy.  If the groans or yucks get too loud, I
simply turn up the volume or put on headphones.  Question resolved.

Carl Jarvis

On 6/5/21, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Opinions please. Someone tells me that my favorite Led Zeppelin song is
misogynistic. I differ. I say that if it was about women in general then
it would be misogynistic, but it is about one specific and no doubt
fictional woman and that exonerates it from being misogynistic. By the
way, it is my favorite Led Zeppelin song because of its sound. I went
for years without even bothering to pay attention to the words. But now
that I have paid attention to the words I don't think it is
misogynistic. Let me know what you think. Here is a link to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO2n7QoyieM

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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through
disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were
so! Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply
a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the
eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had
not the courage to follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely,
you must realize that we created God, and that all of us together now
have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept



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