[blind-democracy] Re: Faith in the west, where is it going?

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:12:09 -0400

If the Mormon church has endorsed gay marriage I have not heard about it myself, but I would consider it an advance and to be praised if it is true. However, I do know of another capitulation that the Mormons made to the secular state. It was when they gave up polygamy. They made claims that it was some kind of theological change at the direction of their deity, but I don't think it was a coincidence that it coincided with the admission of Utah as a state.

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Christopher Hitchens
“ What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. 

―  Christopher Hitchens,

On 4/18/2019 2:10 PM, Mostafa Almahdy wrote:

In the west today, the religious community battles to survive as
social order continues to be gradually secularised. On a rather
broader scale, the religious community submissively relinquishes many
of its traditional tenets in order to somewhat cope with the massively
dominant secular influence. So for instance, I recently read in the
news, that the Mormon Church approved recognising married couples who
might not be necessarily straight. I am not sure though, if this is
decisively factual. I therefore may ask some Mormon officials or lay
believers to comment on this. If what has been  said is true,
homoeroticism is then ratified at their Church. This comes under
implicit pressure as its regular visitors somehow coerced the
denominational leaders to comply. This is a quite natural result of
tolerating faith abandonment. Thence, faith disciples felt desolated,
so they coercively apostatised. Religion is differently experienced
here in the rather Middle Eastern region. Faith formed our major
social relationships as of marriage and other affairs. It furthermore
consociates regulations of what might be jurally defined as Islamic
commerce. Faith in the west in general is majorly tied with unpleasant
memories that are rooted back to medieval era. At that time, the
Catholic Church ruled and ignominiously strangulated intellectual
enlightenment and all sorts of scientific development. While on the
other end of the spectrum, Islam elucidates its embracers and
encourages them to learn, think and explore. The extraordinarily
monumentalised civilisation of Andalusia  in modernly southern Spain
has outstanding portraitures of brilliant architecture, medicinal and
scientific contributions that are substantially beneficial even today.
These great features bear witness to the proposition that confirms the
smooth affiliation of faith and knowledge.  How could someone still
claim that religion is a major barrier to modernity? Without evasion
or equivocation, please, you may tackle this concern. I definitely
find no convincing motive to become Atheist. The justification of
science is nearly scrambled, so what else? I am thrilled to receive
people's comments. I am okay with people voicing their various
opinions even if they fundamentally dissent with mine  as long as
deference is mutually maintained. I expect though to be dissed by some
as usual. I just hope to hold a respectful discussion with someone who
is properly educated and concurrently, strongly dissents with me.


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