I don't think that's the point. The point is that most people don't and that
most people assume that whoever does, is attempting to provide objective
information. But people with the agendas of our national security state and of
governments of its allies, are using Wikipedia to censor alternative news sites
in the same way that mainstream media follows our government's line and
provides altered information and half truths in many cases. If you have been an
investigative reporter, visiting other countries, and you write an article
reporting what you have observed and then Wikipedia tells visitors to its
website that nothing that appears on your website can be trusted, as Blumenthal
says, there's no effective way to fight that. If you go to Wikipedia and
attempt to edit what has been written about you, what you have written to
correct Wikipedia, will be removed. The things that are an issue, at the
moment, are what is being reported on The Grayzone about Venezuela, Bolivia,
and Nicaragua. Almost every media source that you encounter, for example, says
that Moduro is a dictator. You have to look at The Grayzone, Code Pink, and
Popular Resistance to see an alternative viewpoint. I experienced something
very similar in 2014 when Israel attacked Gaza. I could read the truth about
what was actually happening on Democracy Now and I could read it on an
anti-Zionist Israeli email list of which I was a member until Google tossed me
off it accidentally, and in articles on Mondoweiss. But I certainly couldn't
get a full and objective picture from the mainstream press.
Miriam
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Don't forget that if you find a Wikipedia article biased or incorrect you can
edit it yourself. I've done some editing on Wikipedia myself.
___
Carl Sagan
“Every aspect of Nature reveals a deep mystery and touches our sense of wonder
and awe. Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to
nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will
prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront
the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the
Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will
penetrate its deepest mysteries.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
On 8/12/2020 5:17 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Three episodes downloaded onto my stream this afternoon. They were for
Friday, Monday, and Tuesday, I think, although I can't be sure because
they never give dates. I have no idea what happened to the rest of last week.
However, on the Monday episode, Max Blumenthal reports on how
volunteer editors on Wikipedia are listing The Grayzone and several
other websites as "deprecated sources" which means that anything on
their website shouldn't be quoted in news articles because their
information is, according to their government aligned, centrist
editors, incorrect. The volunteer editors are from groups that have an
interest in keeping certain information from the public. There are
people from the Venezuelan right wing opposition, and Neo Cons. The
person in charge of Wikipedia has been involved in government
propaganda efforts and all of the editors are supporting pro US
government foreign policy. They are not neutral fact finders. The
Wikipedia page on Max Blumenthal vilifies him. I've been reading this
kind of stuff about Wikipedia for a while now which is why I've become
mistrustful of them, just as I am mistrustful of Google results on
many subjects. Phillip Cross is a Wikipedia editor who attempts to
discredit every anti-war source of which he becomes aware. Ben Norton
had a video up on The Grayzone the other day, describing how Twitter
is now label tweets from state sources from government accounts which
the US considers enemies. However state sources from Israel or the BBC, or
from Canada, or all of our own government state twitter accounts, remain
unlabeled.
Miriam