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Read The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen J. Gould. It does a pretty good job of debunking IQ tests. The upshot is that they try to measure a wide variety of human abilities and propensities and try to give all of them one number and that just does not provide much information. I think that what was actually being measured in my case was that I am a lifelong fanatic reader and my personal compulsion to learn everything. That kind of prepares one for test taking. When I first registered with the rehab agency my eyesight was decreasing and I might very well have been legally blind, but I was still driving a car. They had apparently contracted with Goodwill Industries for testing and they sent me to Goodwill for my first round of testing. I did get all of those dexterity tests and balance tests and so forth, but also an IQ test. I knew enough about IQ tests that even though they didn't tell me that it was an IQ test I knew it anyway. My tester looked at what I produced and mumbled the word impressive. By the time I got in the rehab center my eyesight had deteriorated to the point that I couldn't tell one person from another by looking at them. They declared my earlier test results invalid for two reasons. One was my further loss of eyesight. The other was that my results were on the extremes of the bell curve, both extremes and that did not seem likely to them. They didn't elaborate, but I knew instantly which ones were on which extreme. I am sure that I flunked everything physical and aced everything that was on paper, including the IQ test. They decided they had to do it all over again. This time I couldn't take any tests on paper so I wasn't quite sure when they sneaked in the IQ test, but at a later time someone told me when it was probably administered and I think he was probably right. It would have been when a staff psychologist seemed to be playing trivial pursuit with me. He asked me various questions for a long time and I answered them. Most were either just asking me a question for which I had to come up with my own answer or asking multiple choice questions. I know I did very well except for when he asked me who wrote Faust. I couldn't remember. Again, lots of reading did a lot toward my impressing those people so much. The guy I finally asked for my IQ score said that out of every hundred people I was smarter than at least 99 of them. I took note of the words at least. My own feel for how well I did makes me think that it was probably well above that. That does qualify me for Mensa, but I am not very interested in joining. That would be like seeking out a grand falloon. If you read Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut you will find out that a grand falloon is a forced association of people who have nothing in common with each other. Vonnegut uses the Daughters of the American Revolution as an example. Mensa would most likely be another place where I would be considered a nonconformist. Sorry, I don't think that an IQ of 120 qualifies one for Mensa, but, despite the impression people who want to brag about their IQs want to give, IQ is highly malleable. Your IQ might very well have changed by now to qualify you.


On 4/5/2017 11:26 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:

Roger,
Funny thing is that West Virginia in 1989 sounded very much like
Washington State in 1965.  The first several days I was attending the
Center, I was put through a battery of tests, including an IQ test, a
Preference Test, a Dexterity Test, and several exams by the two
on-contract psychiatrists.  Most of the tests were designed to see if
I could do repetitious tasks quickly and accurately enough to work at
the Light House for the Blind.  The IQ test, I figure, was to see if I
were dumb enough to buy the Bull Shit these pseudo professionals
dished out.  The policy was to not tell clients their IQ scores.  I'll
spare you the circular thinking that brought them to that conclusion.
but ten years later I got a look at my records and saw that I scored
120.  This means that I was above average at passing their biased test
despite the fact that I was blind and the test was a standard IQ test
for all White, Middle Class Men.  I keep myself from busting my
buttons with pride by telling myself that if I attempted to join the
Mensa, they would pat me on the head and help me to the door.
In 1965, we were in transition.  Programs in Blind Rehabilitation were
based on the Medical Model, and often we were still referred to as,
Patients.  And most of our treatment was clearly based on "Doctor
knows best" mentality.  Given the mind set of the professionals in
blind rehab back in the days you attended the training, nonconformist
was a high compliment.  And of course, if they had your IQ, they
figure they would all be CEO's of some Fortune 500 corporation.  The
people who worked on me, providing rehab services, as well as the
people I worked with during my career, were mostly good, kind people
who wanted to do a good job...within the limits set for them by the
System.  But their real goal was to rise to become a supervisor or
even a program director.  They based much of their accomplishments on
whether they moved closer to their advancement goals, rather than on
how their accomplishments moved the clients toward reaching their
goals.
After being promoted to Assistant Director for Field Services, and
doing the job for 3 years, I sat down with the Director and asked for
my old job back.  "But Carl" she said, "I'm retiring in another 5
years, and you would easily advance to my position as Director".  I
told her that I had gone to work in the field to work with people, not
to push papers and jockey with peoples bent on advancing at all cost.
I enjoyed my work as a rehab teacher, and took the administrator
position in the OTC on the understanding that I would be in direct
contact with the students.  I met with every student several times
during their training, trouble shooting problems, giving my support as
they planned their goals, and constantly directed my staff to always
keep their students dreams as their bottom line.  During my time in
the Center, only one staff member promoted up to an assistant
director.  That was me.  And it was the wrong move.  When I was back
in the OTC, having worn down the Director's resistance, it was like
returning home after a long separation.  Some of those staff members
just retired, and one is now the OTC administrator.  All of these
folks had come to believe that meeting the needs and helping to
support the goals of their students was far better than any promotion.
Even when the VRC's were given bigger pay raises, the Center staff
stayed true to their work.  In that sense they were a room full of
nonconformists.  They actually made their bottom line serving their
clients, ahead of reaching for the brass ring.

Carl Jarvis


On 4/4/17, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It was the West Virginia Rehabilitation Center in 1989. Another
interesting tidbit, throughout my life I have occasionally heard the
word nonconformist. It has only been occasionally though. While I was at
that rehab center pretty much every day some staff member or another had
to comment on my being a nonconformist. After I left I went back to only
hearing it occasionally and never in reference to me. I also heard them
comment frequently on my high IQ. Finally I asked one what my IQ was
anyway. I figured out when it was being tested, but no one had ever told
me what the results were. The one I asked didn't either. I asked him
right after he had said that with my IQ I should be rich by now, so he
questioned my motivation.  Well, I have certainly never been motivated
to be rich, but I have my own set of motivations. I am sure that he
would have called my motivations a lack of motivation. In answer to my
question he said, "let's put it this way, out of every 100 people you
are smarter than at least ninety-nine of them." I used my own knowledge
of statistics to figure out that was 129 or above. I said, "Well, if so
it never has done me any good." I supposed that was further confirmation
to him of his diagnosis of lack of motivation. If nonconformist means
not fitting in then I suppose that in that rehab center I was a
nonconformist. I certainly did not feel like I fit in there very well. I
suspect that if I used that ninety-ninth percentile IQ score to join
Mensa I would find another milieu where I would be considered a
nonconformist.

On 4/4/2017 6:19 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Roger,
What Center did you attend?  Sounds like one out of the early 50's.
Actually, the training center in Seattle back in 1965, when I
attended, had some pretty decent students.  Except for one staff
person, the "Therapists" who taught us "blindness skills" were quick
to remind us that they were the "Professionals" and we were the
Patients.  We had on staff a psychiatric social worker, who worked
overtime to find just how our pathetic condition was affected by our
inept sexual mores.  Alice Olson was the only decent member of the
staff.  Alice was blind.  She also had a blind twin sister.  She was
not a Therapist.  She was an instructor.  She taught Braille, typing
and daily living skills.  Alice was a task master, hunting us down and
walking us to class, while the therapists all sat in the staff break
room drinking coffee and complaining about their students.
By the time I became director of the training center, we had long
since cleaned house and installed some cutting edge instructors.  If
you will allow me a moments bragging, I would tell you that from 1984
until 1993, I had the finest, most effective program for newly blinded
adults in the nation.  Okay, bragging is over.  We were good, and we
had many success stories.  But of course I can scare up some very
angry former students, too.  As good a program as we had, we knew that
one size did not fit all.
I tried to instill in my staff the belief that we were effective only
if we were constantly changing and growing.  Sadly, this was not in
the tradition of programs that found the Truth Everlasting, and set it
in concrete.
Today I stay out of direct contact with the programs I used to direct.
I left 24 years ago, and the world is much different.
Carl Jarvis


On 4/4/17, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At least I'm not alone. I went into rehab with a severe paucity of adult
living skills myself. It was not that I had never learned adult living
skills. It was just that most of them were rather useless in my new
condition. Then I had to face the other blind people who were
contemptuous of me for not being as functional as they were without
regard to the fact that I was brand new to this blindness stuff. The
rehab center taught me some things, but most of these living skills I
had to figure out on my own and I am still figuring out some even now.


On 4/4/2017 11:33 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Well Miriam, one thing your story points out, whether East, West,
North or South, as a nation we are run by our prejudices.  And no,
your story is not something out of Blind History.  It is Right Now
History in the Making.  While your story is far different from mine,
overall, there are some very distinct similarities.  Yours is a story
I encountered over and over while working in the Orientation and
Training Center.
In my situation blindness or vision loss was never discussed.  Despite
my difficulties in school, on the play field, and in my social
life(almost Monkish in nature), I was treated as fully sighted and
expected to behave as such.  So my dad taught me to drive.  This was
as much a testimony to his courage as to my own success.  I learned
from our lessons that I would never be safe on the road.  I never did
drive, probably out of fear for my own life as much as for others.
But I did teach my second wife to drive...although I seldom mention it
because she is such a lousy driver.
Anyway, it's very hard for a gangly young teenager to ask a girl out
on a date, knowing that he would also need to tell her that he would
be picking her up on the bus.  I did some group dating, but until my
first wife and I began dating seriously, I never took a girl out
alone.  But back to my growing up.  The positive side of not
discussing my vision was that I was expected to do all the same chores
that anyone else in the family did.  I learned to wash and dry and put
away the dishes, prepare the food for meals, and cook.  I learned to
do my own laundry by the age of 12, and have done it...along with
Cathy's and the kids, ever since.  I mowed lawns, baby sat, and did
odd jobs including picking beans and strawberries for spending money.
Much of this was prior to becoming blind in my left eye at 17, but I
hadn't used that weak eye much prior to the retina detachment.
It was a very new experience to bring adult students into the OTC who
had been so sheltered that they had no adult daily living skills and
no social skills.  I still chuckle at the woman, a social worker, who
asked me, "How can you expect to rehabilitate people who have never
been habilitated?"
During my entire career with the Department, it was the same story.
Parents and families driven by guilt, disappointment, anger toward
their family member.  This left the blind person feeling rejected,
inferior and useless.  And now the family shoved that pathetic lump of
a human being into my arms saying, "Do something!"  I have more
stories than there is space to tell.  Most of these people moved on
into the real world and managed to survive...sort of.  Some became
alcoholics or drug dependent.  Some adapted and put up a shell of
normalcy over their damaged Being.  But a very few, like yourself, had
the drive and the inner courage and determination to make the best
life they could.  And in so doing they also have begun to put a new
face on what it is to be blind.
What we do is an uphill struggle.  Like our political beliefs, we are
few in number.  We are like the spawning Salmon trying again and again
to leap the rapids and find a safe haven upstream.  We may never reach
it, but it's in our Nature to keep trying.
Have I mentioned before that I really respect you for your strength in
the face of a world that has crushed so many of our blind brothers and
sisters?
Carl Jarvis




On 4/3/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,

Interesting.  Well, let me tell you  a short story of my path to
social
work
and what it was like when I got there. My mother was really worried
about
what kind of work I could do when I grew up. After all, I was this
handicapped child, legally blind. She had reason to be worried. I'd
been
thrown out of the nursery school I attended after I fell down the
cement
stairs in the front of the building. The sun was shining on them in
such
a
way that there were no shadows and I didn't have depth perception. So
she
asked the only person she knew who had an education and might no the
answer,
our family doctor who also was a family friend. Dr. Weinstein looked
into
the matter and suggested that I might become a social worker. I was,
maybe,
twelve or thirteen years old. He explained that social workers helped
people. So it was decided. I thought that would be a good thing to do.
I
was
absolutely sure that I could not get married, have children, or run a
household. After all, my mother never taught me to do any household
chores
except to shell peas. So I latched onto that goal and never let go.
What
Dr.
Weinstein didn't know was that schools of social work in and around
New
York
City weren't exactly delighted to welcome legally blind students. The
most
prestigeous was at Columbia University. It was called The New York
School
of
Social Work. Back in 1959, it was perfectly acceptable to refuse
someone
on
the basis of blindness and they did. Adelphi School of Social Work
said
they'd accept me if I managed to find my own field placements because
they
couldn't guarantee me any. Field placements were the heart and soul of
social work education. N Y U said if I proved that I could find a job
and
work for one year, they'd consider accepting me. I think, perhaps the
Social
Work School at Hunter College accepted me unconditionally. But then
someone,
maybe a legally blind sociology professor of mine, maybe the
recreation
director at the Lighthouse, told me that I should apply to a school
away
from New York so that I would have to leave home and could learn to
live
on
my own. That's how I ended up at the University of Michigan.
Interestingly,
they accepted me on the basis of my interview at Columbia which had
refused
me. But what I wanted to do was counseling or psychotherapy so I
wanted
a
concentration in psychiatric social work. The person in charge of that
program refused me on the basis of my blindness. By the way, back
then,
I
had a lot of useable vision. I was not using a cane and I was reading
print
with a magnifying glass. Anyway, they insisted that I take  the
rehabilitation sequence. That was the only way I'd get a fellowship.
It
was
probably the only way I got in. The rehab agency where they placed a
group
of us was dreadfully backward. The workers were called agents, not
counselors. All they cared about was getting jobs for the least
disabled
clients so they could get raises which were based on the number of
closures
they got. The School of Social Work placed students there because they
thought that we, and our supervisor, who the school also provided,
could
be
agents of change. It was truly an insane idea. I begged them for a
psychiatric field placement for the second year, but the head of the
psychiatric sequence said she would only permit me to have one that
wasn't
certified. Instead, they offered me a family service agency which
would
have
been fine if I'd had a good supervisor and was allowed the kind of
cases
which permitted me to learn to do counseling. Those were white, middle
class
clients and they were given to experienced staff members. I learned a
lot
about race segregation  and poverty that year because the agency gave
me
the
cases that they considered worthless and hopeless. So actually, I got
a
real
social work education that year, not the shortcut to becoming a
psychotherapist that I might have gotten if I weren't visually
impaired.
When I graduated, I could have gotten supervisory jobs and, in one
case,
a
director's job, if I'd been willing to work in northern Michigan or
down
South. The guy at the Lighthouse wanted me to take the job as director
of
a
tiny agency for the blind in some southern state or other. I wanted to
live
and work in New York. The family agencies in New York didn't want me,
even
with a family agency placement. Of course they didn't. I was blind and
they
probably figured out what the agency in Yipsilanti was really like. I
worked
for 2 days in a little family agency in Patterson, NJ and quit because
there
was no way I could do that commute, and I didn't want to live in
Patterson.
The New York State Commission for the Blind put pressure on the New
York
Sstate Dept. of Mental Health to hire me in an after-care clinic for
people
just released from mental hospitals. This wasn't what I had in mind,
but
the
location was OK. Only the director of that clinic didn't want me there
and
when it was my turn to get one of the offices with real walls, a real
door,
and a window, they wouldn't let me have it because they said it was
too
far
for me to walk. I did walk back there to the bathroom several times a
day,
however. So I stayed in my office at the front with dividers rather
than
walls and no windows. When I left, where do you suppose I went? I went
where
they all wanted me to go, to the Industrial Home for the Blind which
was
a
miserable place to be. There are other things that happened like how
no
one
wanted to hire me when I thought I'd return to work when my older
daughter
was five, and when a former classmate of mine, who was the head of
social
services at an agency for mentally ill people, refused to hire me
because
of
my disability. But eventually, I did work on my own, for 30 some odd
years
in adoptions. And even then, disability caused difficulties. But
social
work? It didn't practice what it preached when it came to accepting
people
into its ranks.

Miriam .

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‘End US embargo of Cuba! Get out of Guantánamo!’

Miriam, (second try)
Back in the 50's and 60's I recall declaring that there were three
types
of
people who were totally self centered, self serving, and stuck up.
They
were Marines, Texans and Social Workers.
I knew decent young guys graduating from high school who enlisted in
the
Marine Corps and when they finished their four year hitch, they
couldn't
keep their shirts buttoned because the buttons seemed to burst off
their
chests.  I met people from Texas who were so pleased with themselves
that
they preferred a full length looking glass over another human being.
But
the worst, the very, very worst of all were the Social Workers.  I
know
that
they had to have been born just like everyone else was born.  First
nasty,
disgusting  sex, followed by great labor pains...now it's called
contractions, and then there they were, babies.  But Social Workers
seem
to
have simply materialized at some point, as new adults.  23 years or 25
years
old, proudly presenting their Masters Degree from Stanford, Yale or
Princeton.  And in that piece of paper rested all of the wisdom and
New
World Thinking.  The young social workers of that time even looked
down
their noses at the old social workers.  Blessed with Absolute Truth,
they
went forth to damage the children of the world.  And they weren't any
much
better with older adults, either.  I often wanted to ask, but was far
too
polite, if it weren't difficult to work all day with a corn cob up
their
butt.
Over the years I have become so much wiser and far more tolerant.  I
have
met some down right decent Marines.  In fact my Brother-In-Law was
such
a
creature.  And so is my eldest son-in-law.  Then I met some really
nice
young adults, a group of them traveling together.  They were a bit
nervous
about coming so far out west, thinking there was great lawlessness out
here.
    We met at a conference and I fell in love with all of the young
women...I
was between wives at the time, and I asked them from whence they came.
"Texas!"  they beamed proudly.
Later I even had a male friend from Texas.  I think the difference is
that
these people were, "From" Texas.
Finally, after holding firm to my belief that Social Workers were
really
Goblins who grew in the corn patch and took on Humanoid bodies, I
finally
met a few who did alter my long established belief.  I even hired a
Social
Worker for my staff.  She was, and still is, a cracker jack of a
woman.
I
hired her as one of two Braille Instructors.  But her real job was to
pull
folks out of their crappy attitudes.  She was amazing at it.
Yup.  I've come a long, long way toward open acceptance of
everyone...well,
almost everyone.  In fact, that list is far too long to post here.

Carl Jarvis








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