[blind-democracy] Re: my own thoughts on mental illness and guns

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:25:05 -0400

I think all the people who answered were Christian and he shot them. I read
it in some article or other.

Miriam

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Humel
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what did he do if they said they were something other than Christian? I did
not hear anything about such responses and their consequences.
There is the kind of anger we might feel, then there is the kind of anger
that makes people beat other people to a pulp if they happen to get pissed
off at something they have done or said, or for no reason at all.be it a
wife/child/husband or other so-called loved one or a stranger on the street
or put their fists through the walls of their own home, or rape someone or
kill someone, whether with a gun or with their bare hands.
So I guess it is degree and management, although I hate that term.and all
the so-called techniques for it are bullshit IMO.
I remember a character in a TV show or film or something saying to the
namby-pamby little mealy-mouthed Caspar Milquetoast leading the anger
management session she was forced to go to because she had exploded verbally
at somebody or other, I see little children beaten, starved, raped by their
own fathers, chained to furniture, locked in basements to wither away in
their own filth, and you think sitting here and squeezing this little blue
marble is going to make me less angry? I have every reason to be angry." Or
words to that effect.she was a social worker with Child Protective Services.


On Oct 10, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I suppose that people can do all the theorizing they wish. It seems
to me
that I've been angry for most of my life. But these people who kill,
do so
because of delusions, stuff in their heads. That guy in Oregon asked
each
person their religion and if they said they were Christians, he
killed them.
Anger management?

Miriam

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Dampman
Humel
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:39 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: my own thoughts on mental illness and
guns


I read an article somewhere that contended that the biggest problem
is what
the author called "anger management," or plain uncontrolled anger,
how anger
takes over rational thought processes, and that our society is
basically
full of anger and full of a lot of really angry people.
He differentiated between anger and mental illness...

On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Miriam Vieni
<miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From my professional and personal experience, I would like to point
out that
if a member of your family is an adult and is clearly mentally ill,
even if
there are an array of available treatment services, it may be
difficult or
impossible to help that individual go for treatment. All of this
emphasis on
improving mental health services doesn't solve the problem. There's
no legal
or practical way of forcing an adult to accept or utilize
psychiatric
treatment. That is a tragedy with which many families live. It is
probably
the reason for the reports about all of those killers whom people
described,
in retrospect, as troubled, loners, obviously mentetally ill, etc.
People
may have known that there was something terribly wrong, but they
were
powerless to do anything. The only thing that can be done is to make
guns as
unavailable as possible.

Miriam












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