I figured as much. No one is going to sit around waiting to be helpful to blind
people if they happen to call needing info regarding I phone images without
being paid for it. You buy an I phone and just watch how it becomes a regular
budget item. with regular payments for stuff. I have a computer. I pay a lot
of money for internet access. I pay periodically, for a new computer. I pay for
Jaws updates after the original payment for jaws and then there are annual
payments for Office updates, and when Carlos helped me with the computer I paid
him $60 an hour. His price went up to $120 an hour which he never charged me.
Now if Londa helps me remotely, it's $20 an hour. It's ridiculous. The stream
is vulnerable and I'm dependent on it. My first second gen stream had to be
fixed. I can't remember what I paid the guy to fix it but it was gone for a few
weeks and I bought another one before I sent the first one to be fixed because
I'm so dependent on the thing. I've been getting them from Roger Ben and I
think they each cost about $360. There are people on these lists with 3 and 4
devices that replicate each other. It's insane. I don't understand how they can
afford it. Maybe their families are wealthy. Most of these people aren't
working.
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: phone
Yes, there is a charge, but I forget what it is. I recall something about five
minutes for free though. I think that is the first five minutes of some time
period, maybe daily, but I don't remember.
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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through disbelief
and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so! Your
patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's
wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly
bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically
demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to
follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we
created God, and that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D.
Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept On 6/12/2021 10:04 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Interesting. Is there a charge for it?
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Bearing in mind that I have never used that service I think the agent can
communicate with you. Like, move the phone just a little to the right, back
off a little and so forth. I was listening to a podcast about it in which
someone was using it to find his way through an airport.
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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through disbelief
and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so! Your
patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's
wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly
bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically
demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to
follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we
created God, and that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D.
Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept On 6/12/2021 9:52 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Sounds good, just so long as you are focusing the phone accurately so that
the picture will be distinguishable to whoever will be looking at it. Like,
if you're pointing at a street sign but you can't see precisely where the
sign is, how well would that work?
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From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 9:25 PM
To: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [blind-democracy] phone
Well, I can think of an advantage. I forget the name of the company. I think
it might be Eye Rah. At least it sounds like that. Anyway, get their app and
you point the camera phone at pretty much anything and one of their agents
tells you what it is or answers other questions. Like what does that street
sign say? Which shirt am I about to put on? Read these instructions to me.
And so forth.
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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through
disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so!
Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a
child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the
eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not
the courage to follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must
realize that we created God, and that all of us together now have killed
him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept On 6/12/2021 7:03 PM, Miriam
Vieni wrote:
Roger,
The name of the cell phone I had, just came into my head. It was a
Jitterbug phone. Not a smart phone, just a cell phone that
supposedly is easier to use because of the size of the buttons. I
guess I have one more thing to add. If you have a computer and the
latest version of the stream which has GPS, I don't see what you
would need an I phone for except to have the satisfaction of owning
a device that most sighted people own. It's expensive because,
eventually, you'll need to buy an updated model. Owning the latest stuff is
what Capitalism is all about.
Miriam