[eiagreek] ... the Prussian "issue" ...

  • From: Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:53:09 +0000

Υβρις (Hubris)
Napoleon was not impressed with the king of Prussia: "When I went to see the 
king of Prussia Friedrich Wilhelm III, instead of a library I found he had a 
large room, like an arsenal, furnished with shelves and pegs, in which were 
placed fifty or sixty jackets of various cuts ... He attached more importance 
to the cut of a dragoon or a hussar uniform than would have been necessary for 
the salvation of a kingdom. At Jena, his [Prussian] army performed the finest 
and most spectacular maneuvers, but I soon put a stop to this tomfoolery and 
taught them that to fight and to execute dazzling maneuvers and wear splendid 
uniforms were very different matters. If the French army had been commanded by 
a tailor, the king of Prussia would certainly have gained the day."


Ατη (Ate)
"... just after the victories of Jena and Auerstadt, in which Napoleon 
destroyed the Prussian army and shook the Prussian state to its core, was to be 
something of a turning point. The Prussians were shocked and insulted by the 
French victories, but they also saw them as proof of the superiority of France 
and her political culture.
When Napoleon rode into Berlin he was greeted by crowds which, according to one 
French officer, were as enthusiastic as those that had welcomed him in Paris on 
his triumphant return from Austerlitz the previous year. 'An undefinable 
feeling, a mixture of pain, admiration and curiosity agitated the crowds which 
pressed forward as he passed,' in the words of one eyewitness ...
Napoleon treated Prussia and her King worse than he had treated any conquered 
country before.
At Tilsit he publicly humiliated Frederick by refusing to negotiate with him, 
and by treatening Queen Louise, who had come in person to plead her country's 
cause, with insulting gallantry. He did not bother to negotiate, merely 
summoning the Prussian Minister Goltz to let him know his intentions. He told 
the Minister that he had thought of giving the throne of Prussia to his own 
brother Jerome, but out of regard for Tzar Alexander, who had begged him to 
spare Frederick, he had graciously decided to leave him in possession of it. 
But he diminished his realm by taking away most of the territory seized by 
Prussia from Poland ... " (Zamoyski - "Moscow 1812")


Νεμεσις (Nemesis)
Charles Esdaile writes "At Jena and Auerstadt the Prussian army had fought 
adequately, but its performance had hardly been heroic. At Leipzig and 
Waterloo, by contrast, it is claimed that a very different vision was on show."

Gunther Rothenberg writes: "In 1806 the typical Prussian soldier had been a 
mercenary or a reluctant conscript; now he was animated both by patriotism and 
by a deep and even savage hatred of the French. The first expressed itself, as 
it had in the days of Frederick, by religion. As the Prussian infantry saw the 
French retreating the evening of Waterloo, the fusiliers began to sing the old 
Lutheran hymn, 'A mighty fortress is our God' ... Hatred of the French 
expressed itself in bitter fighting and in the ability to rally after initial 
defeat."


Τισις (Tisis)
"Raise high the black flags, my children. No prisoners. No pity. I will shoot 
any man I see with pity in him." -Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher

According to Admiral Pulteney Malcolm, who commanded the North Sea squadron 
that cooperated with Wellington’s army during the Waterloo campaign, and who 
later met with Napoleon on St. Helena, Bonaparte said two causes lost him the 
battle "Grouchy failing in checking the Prussians, and his great charge of 
cavalry being made half an hour too soon"


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From: eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf 
of Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 12:03
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Austrian Naval Super Power vol.2

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From: eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf 
of Makis Xiroyannis <makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 23:22
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Austrian Naval Super Power vol.2

Aw my God, Austrians with fleets... what is next, Prussians with courage...?


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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 8:24 PM Dimitris Stavr. 
<poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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Austro-Hungarian Marines Corps
In the center of the picture you can see clearly the Flagship of the Glorious 
Austrian Navy!!!


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<eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf 
of Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 20:11
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [eiagreek] Austrian Naval Super Power


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The Habsburg Monarchy had never been a maritime power to be taken seriously – 
despite its Adriatic ports, its rule in the Southern Netherlands and two 
decades of control over Naples and Sicily. For centuries, the Venetians had 
successfully prevented any Austrian shipping in the Adriatic, and the ...
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From: Yannis Sykamias <ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 19:36
To: Dimitris Stavr.; eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [eiagreek] Re: August 1809

Didn’t you receive the invitation for the ceremony??? 😛😛😛


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From: Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 19:15
To: Yannis Sykamias; eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [eiagreek] Re: August 1809

wtf !!! does Austria have naval??????
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From: eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf 
of Yannis Sykamias <ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 14:39
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [eiagreek] Re: August 1809

No naval movement for Austria

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<eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf 
of Makis Xiroyannis 
<makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:50:50 AM
To: eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [eiagreek] Re: August 1809

Ok, French reinforcements uploaded, we are into naval phase

REINFORCEMENTS

COMPLETED

NAVAL
1. Austria
2. France
3. GB

LAND

1. Austria/GB/Prussia
2. France

Ottomans/Spain submit turns anytime


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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 12:30 AM Tiron 
<strategija@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:strategija@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
No reinforcements for GB I think, no leaders placed and there is
nothing else.




On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 23:13:53 +0200
Makis Xiroyannis 
<makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

GB reinforcements and his announcement of naval order next

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 9:54 AM Dimitris Stavr.
<poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Good morning,
Prussia does not have any reinforcements
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*From:* eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on 
behalf of Makis Xiroyannis
<makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> *Sent:* 
Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:12
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: August 1809

*REINFORCEMENTS*

1. Austria/GB/Prussia
2. France

*NAVAL *
1. France
GB - last?

*LAND*

1. Austria/GB/Prussia
2. France

Russia/Ottomans/Spain submit turns anytime

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 11:11 AM Makis Xiroyannis <
makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

AUGUST 1809 POLITICAL PHASE:

Austria, Prussia and Great Britain combine moves
Russia allies with Prussia (+1 PP both)
Russia allies with Austria (+1 PP both)
(Russia also tries to combine moves with Prussia but does not
happen)

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:55 PM Makis Xiroyannis <
makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

off course

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:47 PM T. B.
<scotland_above_all@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:scotland_above_all@xxxxxxxxxxx>> 
wrote:

Make it tomorrow morning please!
One evening won't make much of a difference I reckon 😋
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*From:* eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on 
behalf of Makis Xiroyannis
<makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> *Sent:* 07 
January 2019 17:47
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: August 1809

deadline extended to late at night today so that we receive a few
missing political phases

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 1:27 PM Makis Xiroyannis <
makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 12:51 PM Makis Xiroyannis <
makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Sure, deadline given an additional day.

Στις Κυρ, 6 Ιαν 2019, 12:29 ο χρήστης Yannis Sykamias <
ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> έγραψε:

requesting extension please!

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*From:* eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on 
behalf of Makis Xiroyannis
<makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> *Sent:* 
Saturday, January 5, 2019 14:26
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [eiagreek] August 1809

We are now into August 1809 political phase. France has no
political. You can send your politicals to me, or announce.
Deadline tomorrow noon (unless an extension is requested)


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