As the topic was brought up a few days ago and I happen to be reading a book on the subject as well, I popped over to see what Wikipedia has to say about the topic and relate the following from its article: Jonassen (1997) also proposed well-designed, well-structured learning environments provide scaffolding for problem-solving. Finally both Sweller and Jonassen support problem-solving scenarios for more advanced learners (Jonassen, 1997; Kalyuga, Ayres, Chandler, and Sweller, 2003). Sweller and his associates even suggest well-structured learning environments, like those provided by worked examples, are not effective for those with more experience-this was later described as the "expertise reversal effect" (Kalyuga et al., 2003). Cognitive load theorists suggest worked examples initially, with a gradual introduction of problem solving scenarios; this is described as the "guidance fading effect" (Renkl, Atkinson, Maier, and Staley, 2002; Sweller, 2003). Each of these ideas provides more evidence for Anderson's ACT-R framework (Clark & Elen, 2006)[19] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_%28learning_theory%29#cite_note -18> . This ACT-R <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACT-R> framework suggests learning can begin with studying examples. So that related, I am wondering at what stage in your English teaching programs are you finding that you are introducing problem solving scenarios and what is the earliest age at which teachers feel they have been successful doing this? Also how did you do it, and how do you structure your constructivist classrooms so as to have the least friction with your administrations? Yours truly, David R. Herz drherz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.educatingisrael.com Bet Rimon 052-579-1859 ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------