[etni] Re: Esther Revivo's collected data

  • From: judih haggai <gudweinh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:32:43 +0000

I want to thank Esther for collecting the data and, of course, for daring to 
ask the questions.
This year my 10th grade class is a 3pt-er and so I am not obligated to 
implement HOTS in their studies.
However, since I studied the course and appreciate the benefits of using the 
key components in teaching, I'll be using
them as applicable.

I also tried a few in my 8th grade class last year. New slants on old lessons 
are always good for me and my students.

I'm Histadrut and my school is entering the new Lit Modules this year. Perhaps 
we should keep this thread open for updates.

Judih Weinstein Haggai
Nofei Habsor (our new unified Moshav/Kibbutz School!)


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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Esther Revivo - estherrv@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: My findings about teaching HOTS
> 
> I want to thank all those who not only answered my e-mail, but trusted me 
> enough to sign  their names! ( I received about 20 replies) I also want to 
> thank those who WILL refrain from teaching HOTS for answering me in a 
> respective manner even though I may end up being a  "scab" (strike breaker) 
> in the end. (I am still leaning in that direction for the reasons I had 
> earlier mentioned.)
> 
> It's great that we can agree to disagree. (Maybe we should have Bibi give us 
> a chance at trying to make peace with our neighbors! For that we might not 
> only get paid; we might even get a Nobel Prize :)
> 
> From the e-mails I received, this is what I gather: (Yes, sure, I too did 
> statistics in university, and 20 private e-mails plus another 5 on the forum 
> are not enough to base research on, but heh, aren't you curious??? :)
> 
> 1- A great many teachers WILL NOT be teaching HOTS until the Irgun says to 
> go ahead and do so. They feel that doing the course should not be done 
> either until then.EVERYONE is fed up with being, well, FRIARIM. We are 
> already very overworked, exceedingly underpaid and highly frustrated as it 
> is over the project issue and (accumulated mental abuse) from being taken 
> advantage of!
> 
> 2- However, some of those who have refrained from doing anything against the 
> Irgun's directives are somewhat "uptight" now, as their 12th graders will be 
> facing an oral exam this year sans project and may flunk unless they get 
> themselves a project and know how to answer oral questions on it. (The first 
> part is easier than the last! BTW, are teachers allowed to prep pupils who 
> copied/ downloaded a project by themselves for the oral exam according to 
> the Irgun?THIS I HAVE TO KNOW! )
> 
> 3- EVERYONE who did the HOTS course agreed with every word I wrote. HOTS are 
> important
> skills to impart but NOT in 10th grade and NOT on our backs!  A few teachers 
> who are rakazot (Histadrut folks or whatever) are going to prep their junior 
> high teachers with the terminology so that the HOTS can be started little by 
> little before grade 10. Another freebie.
> 
> 4- NOBODY believes that the program should begin this year without a pilot 
> for the 4 pointers. People said that if  (as it seems) this program will 
> become a fact whether we like it or not, at least it should be done 
> gradually. WHAT'S THE RUSH? WHERE'S THE FIRE? LD issues haven't even been 
> figured out yet!
> 
> 5- EVERYONE not teaching 10th grade this year is rejoicing, while I am not 
> alone in feeling very torn over the issue. One teacher said he/ she will be 
> teaching HOTS as they're afraid NOT to; some will teach HOTS because they 
> feel as I do: that in their development town areas, even if an agreement is 
> reached next year, their 10th graders from this year (the weak ones) will 
> have already missed the boat, (will be unable to make up all the lost 
> material in 11th and 12th grade) and these teachers haven't the heart to 
> cause their pupils' failure.
> 
> Well, I don't know if I feel any better now than before I posted. One thing 
> is definite: There are large numbers of highly aggravated and upset EFL 
> teachers here in Israel! If I do feel a bit better it is only because I know 
> I am not the only one agitated over this issue. "Tzarot Rabim, Chetzi 
> Nechama!"
> 
> Esther Revivo
> Ulpanat Tzvia
> Sedot Negev



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