[etni] Fw: Answers You've Always Been Afraid To Give

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  • Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:17:52 +0200

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From: sbshai - sbshai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Answers You've Always Been Afraid To Give


Here are two more frequently encountered scenarios regarding the tziun 
shnati for Barry's "maybe" article:

First case

Student:  Why should I continue coming to your class if I can do better on 
the Bagrut without the tziun shnati you'll probably give me?  I can do the 
externi and have more success!

Teacher: You're absolutely right, but don't quote me!

Advantage of this response:  It's got a refreshingly honest appeal that the 
student is totally unprepared for.  Watch his/her eyebrows as you say this 
with a smile.  (The smile is important because it shows you're not scared to 
be quoted, so hopefully you won't be!)

Disclaimer: Do this at your own risk, depending on your principal's sense of 
humor!  (First you must determine exactly whose 'pal' he/she is.)

Second scenario

Student: You said at the beginning of the year that we'll get credit for 
attendance when you give the tziun shnati, but you must have forgotten about 
my almost perfect record.

Teacher: I must remind you that I emphasized a triple component approach to 
the question of attendance: you have to be present in mind, body and soul in 
order for attendance to count.  I'm afraid that in your case the first 
factor was mostly absent.

Student: That's a terrible thing to say!

Teacher: Can you deny that you slept soundly through the majority of 
lessons, and on those occasions when someone succeeded in waking you up, you 
promptly turned your other cheek to the desk?

Student: Can't I get some credit for the body and soul part?

Dear colleagues, I leave this one for you to answer.

Thanks for stirring up nostalgic memories, Barry!

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