----- Original Message ----- From: byk - byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Reflections on the HOTS Course I would like to back Amanda up as to the teaching of grammar. It is taught non-stop from 4th grade on up. Of course the reason is obvious; it is easy to teach; the pupils think they are learning something and the teachers have slightly more control of the class. The issue of discipline is paramount. Almost all teachers, right through to the end of high school, spend their time trying to keep order. If the teachers are not given real tools to deal with this problem, and ample back up from principals and parents, all learning is going to continue deteriorating. I suggest that teachers come to Etai with the exact number of hours they have taught (not those that they were supposed to teach), with the number of students they had in each class, the number of students in each class who had accommodations, and the estimated time each separatate task the Ministery has set, should take. And I mean what is the absolute minimum time it takes to get through these tasks. I think that you will find, in case you didn't already knowit, that it is impossible to do everything. Then take the results to the Irgun and cry "Gevalt!!!!!!" Jennifer ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------