[etni] Fw: re: Sandy Regev's posting
- From: "Ask" <ask@xxxxxxxx>
- To: "Etni" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:06:43 +0200
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From: "byk" <byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re: Sandy Regev's posting
I beg todiffer from Judy V.
I'm not at all sure the the bad behaviour comes from home. I run a business
for private coaching ( having thrown in the towel after a terrible year of a
principal trying to force me to up my magen marks, and teaching a 1 point
yud class sitting on the floor, at the end of the year, because we had been
provided with a dwindling number of desks and chairs, ending up with none).
The students I teach come from a wide range of different home styles -
Anglo-Saxon, Israeli born, Sephardi, Ashkenazi, and religious. They are all
delightful children at home, polite to me, their parents, their guests asnd
their peers. Almost everywhere I go, I hear horror stories of what their
classes are like. Once they get to school, the children know that anything
goes, and because they ARE children, they find it difficult to control
themselves, when everybody is going wild. This situation is magnified with
LD students.
Often, they tell me that they don't misbehave, only "talk". We all know
what 30 or 40 kids talking is like when one is trying to give a lesson.
When do they behave? In lessons that bear little resemblance to teaching,
where the teacher reads from notes prepared umpteen years ago, and where the
students spend the whole lesson frantically taking notes, only to
regurgitate them at exam time.
Don't blame the teachers for the above scenario; blame the curriculum! The
material has to be covered at all costs! I remember a boy saying of my son
that he didn't have to do anything in English because he "knew the
material!"
By the way, it is only marginally better in the Arab sector, in which I also
teach. New teachers are chopped up and eaten for breakfast!
SOPs (standard orders of procedure)relating to discipline must be in place
in schools, and disciplinary measures cannot be dealt with exclusively by
the teachers - they don't have time. Furthurmore, the greater the number of
students, the more draconian the measures must be. We all know that even
with 20 pupils inthe class,one disruptive one can ruin the chances of any
teaching or learning taking place.
Jennifer Byk
Judy wrote:
> I teach in a so called "exclusive' private kibbutz school and i
> absolutely
> agree with what is said here. Some classes are fantastic and some are a
> nightmare, according to the attitude of the students. The key is the
> attitude of the students. It's not always 'the better the students , the
> better the manners." IT ALWAYS COMES FROM THE HOME - WHATEVER THE LEVEL.
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