[etni] Fwd: Re: Problems with class sizes

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From: Ruthi <rsheffer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Problems with class sizes

I have 35 in a 4 point yudalef and 41 in a Yudbet class. I would be
delighted to have 26 at any level.

Ruth


Laurie wrote:
> I'd like to relate top David's comments and questions regarding Native
> Speakers and class size.
>
> Till this year, my school has had Native Speaker groups. However, this year,
> as we do not have enough pupils who fit into this category. I am teaching a
> 9th grade 5 point class which also includes some Native Speaker pupils. All
> in all, about 26 kids. We also have 2 small groups at 3 and 4 point level.
> Basically, I have at least half the grade in my class.
>
> This is a challenge as are all "heterogeneous" groups. In this case, in
> addition to keeping the Native Speakers challenged, I also must deal with
> the inhibitions of the "regular" 5 pointers who are often leery about
> speaking up in the presence of such fluent learners.
>
> In the past, even with the Native Speaker group, the 5 point class has
> always been the largest and included some pupils who really should have been
> in 4 points but for various reasons, were pushed up in order to keep the
> weak group/s small.
>
> I wish I had a "secret solution" to the number issue but don't. I do think,
> David, that your idea of giving the Native Speakers 3 hours + 1 hour of
> individual work is a good idea. This should somewhat ease the pressure in
> the large 5 point group.
>
> Unfortunately, most of us are all up against the wall with class size
> issues. The agreements reached with the MOE 3 years ago have not really made
> an impact in the field. And I also see classes of 40 and more and often
> heterogeneous, in some schools. Yes, English, too! The best I can suggest is
> to try and work more in groups with less frontal teaching.
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