[etni] Fwd: Re: degree recognition horror stories
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- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:33:26 +0300
Sympathies
The processing side of the MOE is not only shocking, but downright
embarrassing and fixed somewhere in the Middle Ages of a Third World
country.It took me 9 months to get my BA from Open University (UK)
recognised, with many trips, emails and letters to them, and they had
no concept of the British system, and claimed to have never heard of
the Open University (it is the largest academic institution in the
United Kingdom (and one of the largest in Europe) by student number,
and qualifies as one of the world's largest universities. Wikipedia.
and the Israeli OU was based on it). They then wrote letters to the OU
asking for information about the courses, and what I had done, without
adding my name and therefore delaying the process even more.I only
finally got it recognised when I threatened to take the matter to the
Knesset and PM.I want to do my MA, in English, but am having problems
finding anything suitable here in Israel and am considering taking
another OU course, or equivalent but am scared of having to do the
whole procedure again.
Also I am not signing this comment for fear of retaliation that I have
also heard is quite common.
Good luck to all those out there trying to get their academic studies
recognised.
Susan wrote:
> After I finished my PhD in the states and I went to the MOE (in Tel Aviv) to
> apply for recognition, they said they could not recognize my PhD because I
> had never received recognition for my American BA. (My MA was from Bar
> Ilan.) So I dutifully returned a second time with my American BA
> certificates and grade report. And then I was told to return a third time
> with my marriage certificate because the BA was in my maiden name. Of
> course, they did not recognize my American teaching certification...and the
> license you get from the ministry course that I took so many years ago did
> not give me any salary benefits. Every new teacher, especially new immigrant
> teachers, MUST check that their papers are in order and get good advice
> about what certificates and courses they need to get the maximum of the
> miserable salary we receive for our dedicated work.
> Good luck!
Rachel wrote:
> What shocks me most with all these questions is that nothing has changed in
> the last 25 years.You would think that they might have made things simpler
> by now:-)
Gelbard wrote:
> I totally agree. I'm trying to get my MA from the Institute of Education in
> London authorized for here - it's on the list of recognized universities in
> israel. In England they don't give numerical grades, just letters (a,b...).
> You'd think this is the first degree from London. I've had to get a letter
> explaining the grading methods, another one with more stuff, and they even
> turned directly to the University itself! This has been going on for months.
> It's a shame because it wastes so much time.
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