---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jenifer Byk <byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Renee Wahl's letter Ouch!! That was hitting the nail on the head, and I absolutely agree with you, except for one thing. The problem doesn’t start, for many schools, in the 11th and 12th grades. It starts in the 10th. This is simply outrageous! Many of the schools in my area have gone straight to teaching for bagrut in the 10th grade, using module ‘E’ unseens and starting the the literature program with the short stories. The class marks reflect the unpreparedness of the students for this approach – averaging in the 49s and low 50s, except for the native speakers. How do I know? I am one of that maligned group known as private teachers, so I have a wide view of what is going on in a number of schools. Renee is absolutely right; the students and their teachers are drowning in work, but what is worse for all of them is that the students really aren’t learning English. I spend (waste) lessons trying to elicit answers in correct English, constantly having to remind them about gerunds, phrasal verbs, that malicious English “S”, and any number of things which neither they nor the teachers have had any time to work on in their three years of High School. And, like Renee, most of the students I work with are highly motivated and excellent. Why, then, are they taking private lessons? For two reasons. First of all, their teachers are so harried and hurried that they just want to reread the texts and go over them slowly. Secondly, it appears that many of their teachers today are just starting out on their careers, and, try as they may, seem to be finding it difficult to find the right level. And I am not talking about the teachers like Rachel, who started this thread, and whose students thought she had never taught literature before. I find myself in exactly the same boat, despite my love of literature and my MA in English literature; sometimes I am left scratching my head and wondering what on earth the answer is supposed to be. Unlike Renee, I would be loathe to see literature go, but once upon a time it was an integral part of the exam, and learning English was not sacrificed to it. This was in the 1950s and early 60s if I am not mistaken. It had its problems; students came to university unprepared for academic texts, but this is certainly something that can be remedied. My suggestion. Perhaps David could make the next survey a yes/no question. Do we agree with Renee or not? Is this what is happening in the classroom today? The results should be sent both to the Ministry and to Shai Piron. Jennifer Byk ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx ***************************************