**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** I see that the thread about native speaker teachers is still going strong, so I'll add my two cents worth, based on my own experience as both a student and a teacher. My experience as a student (I already posted this as a comment to the ETNI poll about non-native speakers teaching native speakers): I once had a non-native speaker teach me English (at college level), and despite her advanced degree and many years of experience, she made a few truly awful mistakes, including one correction on a composition which she insisted was the best way to write the sentence, and which EVERY native speaker I showed it to (including a professional editor) thought was absolutely wrong and sounded awful to the ears. I still remember that correction, as well as other pronunciation mistakes she made (vow rymed with go, rather than with cow), because I was angry that I was being taught by someone whose English was in many ways on a lower level than mine. Now, I'm not saying that every non-native speaker teacher is like that, but it is pretty likely that most non-native speakers will make some sort of pronunciation or idiom-related mistake at some point or another, and in my opinion, this will cause their students to lose some of their respect for them. My experience as a teacher: Among my former and present colleagues, I have not yet come across a non-native speaker who hasn't made language mistakes at some point or another - it could be using the Present Progressive instead of the Present Simple and vice versa, it could be using the wrong word such as "inviting pizza for dinner", or it could just be a pronunciation mistake which really grated on my nerves, etc. Now I'm not claiming to be perfect regarding language usage, although I find that most of my mistakes are typos in my worksheets rather than real mistakes - for example, I found that I had written: The criteria IS (oops, and on a handout for teachers, no less...), but once I saw it on the paper, I immediately realized that it was a mistake. Again, we're all human and we all make mistakes, but if a school, be it public or private, needs a teacher with an extremely high level of English, I don't see anything wrong with asking for native speakers only, although yes, asking for native-speaker flue ncy might be a better option. All the best, Rivka --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####