**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** The Bolsheviks solved that problem in a truly Stalinist way. After graduating from the University, every "young specialist" was obliged by law to work in a rural location set by the authorities, for three full years following graduation. I got my degree in 1975; I returned home in 1978 after having served three long years 300 kilometers away. I sincerely hope this "bold social experiment" will not be repeated here, despite many similarities I have observed in the way the two states build their relations with their citizens. However, I have to agree with Bari: in certain faraway places it is hard to hire a teacher whose English would be up to par. (In Dimona in 1991, they even hired *me* - a meager non-native speaker with no pedagogic education and no formal prior teaching experience!) I also have to agree with Dan that those who cannot learn a language sufficiently well should not be teaching others (although I disagree with him regarding the rest of his claims). What is the solution? Ideally, the Ministry should be allocating funds for professional training which would include language proficiency courses. Every teacher would have to take oral and written proficiency tests in order to get certified; those whose English was found lacking would have to take enrichment courses until they pass the certification. I'm afraid, however, that this Stalinist solution would probably fail to achieve any lasting effect. Bottom line: if there is a colleague who could teach English proficiency courses that would improve teachers' command of English and help them get rid of "heavy accents", I will be willing to provide the platform for putting these courses online, as well as take upon myself all the necessary steps to obtain an approval for continuing education points ("gmul"). I will also provide the necessary training in order to help the instructor teach in an e-learning environment. The candidate should be highly proficient in English; no requirements regarding "native" aspect will be set. Any takers? Lev ----------- Lev Abramov The Schiffman Institute <http://home.schiffman.biz> -----Original Message----- From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bari Nirenberg Well, maybe, but if we had to abide by those criteria, I think we'd have a severe shortage of English teachers and we'd be teaching 60 or 70 kids in a class. There are a lot of native speakers in Jerusalem, Dan, but have you been to Beer Sheva lately? Bari > -----Original Message----- > From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > --- > non-native speakers who teach English should be at or near proficiency level without strong foreign accents. I can think a few teachers in Jerusalem who qualify. Those with heavy accents should not be teaching English. > > Dan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 22/07/2004 ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####