**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** I would like to add something to this. Many of us sent our regular 5-point pupils (and even borderline 5-pointers) to module E this year, in the 11th grade. I don't even want to think of what a blow it is to a kid's self-confidence when he or she fails what is supposed to be the easiest part of the 5-point exam. We all encourage our students by giving them positive feedback and opportunities for success. I think that the easiest part of their Bagrut exam should be an opportunity for success, as well. That is certainly the case for 3-point students, and, after having seen the results of module C, for 4-pointers, as well. Not all of our 5-pointers are brilliant and outstanding in English. Some of them are just highly motivated and really want 5 points in English, even though they're struggling. Since one of the reasons for modularity is to allow students to take their Bagrut exam over time, rather than all at once, I don't think it's unreasonable to send kids to the first part at the end of 11th grade. And I think that even the borderline 5-pointers should have a decent chance of passing the exam -- they certainly shouldn't be getting grades in the 30s, which is what I saw several cases of at our school. And once a kid has failed so miserably, it doesn't do him or her much good to be told that there are more opportunities to take the exam. I know plenty of kids who won't want to bother trying again after a grade like that. Bari > One more thing...in defference to what Michele wrote about the > Native Speakers having many more opportunities to be tested, I > don't think that is a fair way to correct this injustice . They > sat for the exam this summer in order to put it behind them and > they will be involved in other studies without real time for more > Bagrut exam practice...and they KNOW English! Why should they be > penalized? This means even more disruption of the school > timetable as well. Needless to say, it also means further > expense ...the kids pay per Bagrut unit! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/04 ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####