In response to a comment Barry made about the success of the HOTS program in higher level classes, I'd like to point out that there are a significant number of people teaching these classes who cannot be enthusiastic about the program in its present form. First of all, HOTS is not innovative for us as we've always worked with the core thinking skills. (Is there a way to effectively teach literature without motivating thinking?) The only thing that's new is the demand to name the skill -- a futile exercise that is unlikely to achieve its purpose in either strong or weaker classes; in fact, it will probably further turn reluctant students off to literature (which is being abused, at least in strong classes, by the artificial "infusion" of HOTS). Indeed, those of us who have experience teaching generations of students can say with a degree of confidence that stronger students will resent having the pace of an interesting literature discussion slowed down when they are forced to classify their comments within rigid parameters, while weaker pupils who are altogether struggling in L2 will have more reason to intensely dislike learning English. We can agree with Barry's assessment of the MOE's motives in introducing this program (i.e., to get all schools involved in teaching literature), but those of us who have been doing so all along should be willing to express our valid concerns about the weak points in the program. Since the program designers want the stated goals of HOTS to succeed, there should be a recognition that L2 is not the ideal place to begin implementing the program; rather, only after it has been fully developed in other disciplines can it possibly work in a foreign language class -- and even then, literature is the last subject that should be targeted. (This is equally true for strong and weak classes.) Finally, those of us who love teaching literature cannot embrace HOTS because it is patently clear that the literature takes a back seat to the awkward name-your-thinking-process requirement. This is supposedly due to the belief that what's important is how to apply what's learned to other situations, which is a commendable goal and one that most teachers indeed use when teaching literature. However, the way we are told to achieve this aim is simply tedious. In view of all that's been said (for and against) on the ETNI list, I'd like to make a final call to concerned teachers to attend the HOTS roundtable discussion at the closing of the ETAI conference this Tuesday. Shavuah tov, Batya ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------